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On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:51 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:18 AM, la .lindar. <lindarthebard@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe something like {prityfalgu'o} and {zulfalgu'o}?
>>
>>
>> That's fairly inaccurate. Rotation has nothing to with gravity, and
>> falling /requires/ it. It is perfectly possible for something to
>> move/rotate in a clockwise direction without falling. Every celestial body
>> that isn't rotating counter-clockwise does it. (technically: the rotation
>> of the Earth has nothing to do with the fact that the Earth is perpetually
>> falling toward Sol.)
>
>
> What is the standard for determining north/right-left?
> Whether Earth (and other bodies in space) rotate and revolve clockwise or
> counterclockwise is purely arbitrary, 50/50. But once any one thing is
> determined to be north, everything else follows.
> How about using chirality as the basis of a definition?
>

Or, as someone has already mentioned, the basic righthandedness of humans?

The fact that an object has a top and bottom does not in any way determine
whether that object spins left or right.

stevo

>
> stevo
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>>
>> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
>> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Morphem=
eAddict <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">lytlesw@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">

<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"im">On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 a=
t 3:24 AM, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 1:18 AM, la .lindar=
. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lindarthebard@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">lindarthebard@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">



Maybe something like {prityfalgu&#39;o} and {zulfalgu&#39;o}?

</blockquote></div><br></div>That&#39;s fairly inaccurate. Rotation has not=
hing to with gravity, and falling /requires/ it. It is perfectly possible f=
or something to move/rotate in a clockwise direction without falling. Every=
 celestial body that isn&#39;t rotating counter-clockwise does it. (technic=
ally: the rotation of the Earth has nothing to do with the fact that the Ea=
rth is perpetually falling toward Sol.)</blockquote>


<div><br></div></div><div>What is the standard for determining north/right-=
left?=A0</div><div>Whether Earth (and other bodies in space) rotate and rev=
olve clockwise or counterclockwise is purely arbitrary, 50/50. But once any=
 one thing is determined to be north, everything else follows.=A0</div>


<div>How about using chirality as the basis of a definition?=A0</div></div>=
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Or, as someone has already mentioned, the =
basic righthandedness of humans?=A0</div><div><br></div><div>The fact that =
an object has a top and bottom does not in any way determine whether that o=
bject spins left or right.=A0</div>

<div><br></div><div>stevo</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"m=
argin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>stevo=A0</div><div class=3D"im"><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">

<div>
<br>
<br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo piln=
o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Lu=
ke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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