Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:60520) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SzzJI-0005fJ-9W; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:12:16 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf2232303qca.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:12:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hk3orIs1azSfv1cujpR6DuwVRtXe/S6krWoKQUNuDLY=; b=lZRePd/EUj9WvsrvRz+PRT5v586VubXFzu0km87XF2U6EuQgFswt1gctCDj4zXCcdf HvFamWXyKImEvG05Sbu+lX5FmrTgbZUmfd9RYbHwbj5gjT5r4jyInj3kBy4U+XJrNCvH q2/jf51bA5KvZheftRMkNlMArZIgOUajnOsms= Received: by 10.68.201.229 with SMTP id kd5mr1051076pbc.11.1344643921045; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:12:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.240.162 with SMTP id wb2ls13451271pbc.0.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.228.134 with SMTP id si6mr1054554pbc.2.1344643920536; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:11:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "la .lindar." To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <201208102246.34877.jezuch@interia.pl> Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: lindarthebard@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lindarthebard@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lindarthebard@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_82_9957669.1344643919588" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_82_9957669.1344643919588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Escape Landsome, you're not contributing to the conversation by misunderstanding basic concepts and then arguing against opinions nobody has. Nobody was claiming to know of a culturally-neutral word for "clockwise", therefore nobody is inclined to prove it. The entire topic of this conversation is precisely about whether or not we *can* come up with such a thing. Also, how do you not understand what a reference frame is? If the north end of the earth is pointed toward you, it appears to be spinning anticlockwise, but if the south end is pointed toward you, it appears to be spinning clockwise. How is that not obvious and intrinsic to the concept to you? Back to the point, can we come up with the *least* wrong answer *right now* so I have something to use at all? Is anybody going to misunderstand {carna fi lo pritu} if we apply Powell's Principle? I really need anything, so if you have an answer that's less incorrect, please let me know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/4b-r35t_7eAJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_82_9957669.1344643919588 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Escape Landsome, you're not contributing to the conversation by misundersta= nding basic concepts and then arguing against opinions nobody has. Nobody w= as claiming to know of a culturally-neutral word for "clockwise", therefore= nobody is inclined to prove it. The entire topic of this conversation is p= recisely about whether or not we *can* come up with such a thing. Also, how= do you not understand what a reference frame is? If the north end of the e= arth is pointed toward you, it appears to be spinning anticlockwise, but if= the south end is pointed toward you, it appears to be spinning clockwise. = How is that not obvious and intrinsic to the concept to you?

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Back to the point, can we come up with the *least* wrong answer *right= now* so I have something to use at all?
Is anybody going to misu= nderstand {carna fi lo pritu} if we apply Powell's Principle?
I r= eally need anything, so if you have an answer that's less incorrect, please= let me know.

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