Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:52918) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1SzzhQ-0005rW-6G; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:37:12 -0700 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14sf783699wib.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=PY3/r9zeBep08VWhCJgRDXW0956Ydnb9kMH9KxdGVvE=; b=1OhNmrx1XlQVqjNV+KEOV2SBH+b3w1u2EhngeXFDSV6vexyp2lifIOgrc4IcYoX1e6 muc6GTSZ/DZt2A6BhaxLaFp+7llzDCw8Hjnv2Nu9+/h+LtaGyH496unu3fdDvFTaqX8e PgX/DXz4/4Q1FBy9UnOyLU/phwI9PlIToC5bE= Received: by 10.180.105.232 with SMTP id gp8mr3153wib.0.1344645416327; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.224.130 with SMTP id x2ls117369eep.7.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.184.71 with SMTP id r47mr4867270eem.4.1344645415665; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.184.71 with SMTP id r47mr4867268eem.4.1344645415652; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ee0-f53.google.com (mail-ee0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 46si538512eed.1.2012.08.10.17.36.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.83.53; Received: by eekc4 with SMTP id c4so525958eek.12 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.215.197 with SMTP id e45mr5333790eep.36.1344645415518; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.178.196 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:36:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <74243394-F7AA-46CD-B731-21E95827CE6B@yahoo.com> <5fbb3fd1-8c00-42a4-9dac-e9889e69757f@googlegroups.com> <000eea56-0a1e-4f54-8862-3cc817d539e1@googlegroups.com> <9cb9e4c0-f3fa-4183-8582-f14de670148c@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:36:55 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Are Natlang the best case for entropy in communication ? From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 74.125.83.53 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > Now, as to Escape's contention that such kind of phonemic ambiguity in words > of potentially disastrous confusion (i.e., opposite words in the same scale) > doesn't exist in natural languages, I WILL challenge that assertion. > Really? Have you studied all the scales in all of the > world's many thousands of languages? You impress me! I > haven't found any yet, but I can't dismiss the possibility it exists in a > natlang... How about "can" vs "can't" in English? The difference between them can be rather minimal. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.