Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:63170) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T02an-0007Uc-CU; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:42:37 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf2354019qca.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:42:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:references :in-reply-to:mime-version:message-id:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=5h5B10WprohAv31NEUcccxlNThzpcqdgqsiJdIkOzgM=; b=106Ph+WuHjyQtFE3HlACFvtAUCIgqZ1A1j4dSot+XlIjegl5mylxQ+RyKEs8OREhKL G5JKE1Ta7dLxu8Vgq4t+SKbXmHAWZLklzpdWoyOGm4vL5eXtoE9qDQomKKPBCYx9b5XV iscSAY1DYe2XlcOM0dojuXXJz2ip32OO297sc= Received: by 10.236.186.34 with SMTP id v22mr1177018yhm.9.1344656538066; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.78.164 with SMTP id g24ls8507772yhe.6.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.133.146 with SMTP id q18mr2850528yhi.12.1344656537350; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.133.146 with SMTP id q18mr2850526yhi.12.1344656537304; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chausie (cpe-069-132-101-103.carolina.res.rr.com. [69.132.101.103]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id l49si210072yhe.1.2012.08.10.20.42.16; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=69.132.101.103; Received: from ip6-localhost (ip6-localhost [IPv6:::1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FCE21752 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:42:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 23:42:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 0.20070907.709405) References: <201208100717.52329.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201208102342.13849.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.132.101.103 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Friday 10 August 2012 16:02:46 Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Friday 10 August 2012 03:32:53 la .lindar. wrote: > > > What sort of thing would you put in the x3 of carna that would seem > > > > valid. > > > > lo terdi cu carna lo jendu lo berti .i lo junla cu carna lo jendu lo > > bitmu .i > > lo xislu be lo karce cu carna lo jendu lo zunle be lo karce > > > > mu'omi'e .pier. > > Those examples don't work, because in each of them you give a reference > point for the x3, and in none of them do you give a direction. (That said, > if carna's definition was the one I talked ab out last night, all of them > would be perfect examples.) The direction is from the clock, along its axis, into the wall, which corresponds to a direction of rotation by the convention of holding the right hand so that its thumb is along the axis and the other fingers curl in the direction of rotation. Pierre -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.