Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:63685) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T02qM-0007kW-2I; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:41 -0700 Received: by fadw1 with SMTP id w1sf851586fad.16 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=e0L0iiI54im+elmrYx63TzWbK9+Rx62oDDp7rkZrgr8=; b=GfgKDQeCuAEt5f0N2eKES3rnV0DCEcLY/KbGFucye3oIWO34tZPf7Eh+5ccYsYFN5q tPCjyW3nqLtYxnLjEiOWMFC1RrBabTGZIBqqwdljBkdDm6bw4ZktMdkujKh72/WYYMau 54r5G6/Y2Ecp2rixIruO7eePw8zZLkOE3/yHc= Received: by 10.205.139.80 with SMTP id iv16mr230423bkc.6.1344657502120; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:22 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.148.136 with SMTP id p8ls3759063bkv.3.gmail; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.130.7 with SMTP id q7mr691470bks.2.1344657501425; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.130.7 with SMTP id q7mr691469bks.2.1344657501406; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si175833bks.2.2012.08.10.20.58.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so1244258lah.29 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.8.100 with SMTP id q4mr3289986lba.86.1344657500899; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.136.73 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:58:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201208102342.13849.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <201208100717.52329.phma@phma.optus.nu> <201208102342.13849.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:58:20 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba308fd2af882c04c6f578ab X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --90e6ba308fd2af882c04c6f578ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Friday 10 August 2012 16:02:46 Jonathan Jones wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Pierre Abbat > wrote: > > > On Friday 10 August 2012 03:32:53 la .lindar. wrote: > > > > What sort of thing would you put in the x3 of carna that would seem > > > > > > valid. > > > > > > lo terdi cu carna lo jendu lo berti .i lo junla cu carna lo jendu lo > > > bitmu .i > > > lo xislu be lo karce cu carna lo jendu lo zunle be lo karce > > > > > > mu'omi'e .pier. > > > > Those examples don't work, because in each of them you give a reference > > point for the x3, and in none of them do you give a direction. (That > said, > > if carna's definition was the one I talked ab out last night, all of them > > would be perfect examples.) > > The direction is from the clock, along its axis, into the wall, which > corresponds to a direction of rotation by the convention of holding the > right > hand so that its thumb is along the axis and the other fingers curl in the > direction of rotation. > No, that's not what I mean. You don't specify which direction the objects are rotating. The "direction" you're talking about is the reference point. -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --90e6ba308fd2af882c04c6f578ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
On Friday 10 August 2012 16:02:46 Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.optus.nu> wrote:
> > On Friday 10 August 2012 03:32:53 la .lindar. wrote:
> > > What sort of thing would you put in the x3 of carna that wou= ld seem
> >
> > valid.
> >
> > lo terdi cu carna lo jendu lo berti .i lo junla cu carna lo jendu= lo
> > bitmu .i
> > lo xislu be lo karce cu carna lo jendu lo zunle be lo karce
> >
> > mu'omi'e .pier.
>
> Those examples don't work, because in each of them you give a refe= rence
> point for the x3, and in none of them do you give a direction. (That s= aid,
> if carna's definition was the one I talked ab out last night, all = of them
> would be perfect examples.)

The direction is from the clock, along its axis, into the wall, which=
corresponds to a direction of rotation by the convention of holding the rig= ht
hand so that its thumb is along the axis and the other fingers curl in the<= br> direction of rotation.

No, that's not what I mean. You don&= #39;t specify which direction the objects are rotating. The "direction= " you're talking about is the reference point.

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(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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