Received: from mail-gh0-f189.google.com ([209.85.160.189]:51966)
	by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
	(Exim 4.76)
	(envelope-from <lojban+bncCMGclZyxExDjpZiBBRoEx5TQaw@googlegroups.com>)
	id 1T06jy-0003IN-0K; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:08:23 -0700
Received: by ghbf16 with SMTP id f16sf2387001ghb.16
        for <multiple recipients>; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=googlegroups.com; s=beta;
        h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date
         :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender
         :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list
         :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender
         :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type;
        bh=4Ndhgq24inHgfi92o/VmKuk+SJH1nm9kB0WdEohdF/c=;
        b=JbsnBZAexDRoRA+SGWtexMazOsF/cP83pD8H8+fDQSEBSDAFFgyHA2tnl7mLUwMd6X
         Xd5+eoUFFhkh8K1svaXZ22c7lr6fdLw/KvJpv7xINwhBCSntTsToqXmlc9dsnlgSwFtA
         cWoII+BSUwh3r2xj7iv6J8Cm42MKESS1DGHXI=
Received: by 10.50.95.202 with SMTP id dm10mr3475igb.2.1344672483216;
        Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:08:03 -0700 (PDT)
X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com
Received: by 10.231.2.13 with SMTP id 13ls4833390ibh.1.gmail; Sat, 11 Aug 2012
 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.43.13.137 with SMTP id pm9mr1117327icb.0.1344672482327;
        Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.43.13.137 with SMTP id pm9mr1117326icb.0.1344672482315;
        Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181])
        by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ad4si358024igc.1.2012.08.11.01.08.02
        (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER);
        Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181;
Received: by obbup19 with SMTP id up19so3663277obb.40
        for <lojban@googlegroups.com>; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.50.209.8 with SMTP id mi8mr539287igc.63.1344672481977; Sat, 11
 Aug 2012 01:08:01 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.64.87.168 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 01:08:01 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <201208102246.34877.jezuch@interia.pl>
References: <e4a06349-05ee-4a2c-b1ca-31463945eec6@googlegroups.com>
	<CAGO2uOMiGB98mBuFfu_PEQ3unwoLtfqDO9r5AN0--hH_cmW=wA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAMKwHj3wO1wVmhm0DEDyN8xa8LCVMjC+EHBgir-a3K8g5Eh_Ow@mail.gmail.com>
	<201208102246.34877.jezuch@interia.pl>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 10:08:01 +0200
Message-ID: <CAGO2uOPce2HnOLOhqZryewjyDGddwsALM2EnSjhc_88PGRTYJg@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation
From: Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
X-Original-Sender: escaaape@gmail.com
X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com:
 domain of escaaape@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender)
 smtp.mail=escaaape@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com
Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com
List-ID: <lojban.googlegroups.com>
X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417
List-Post: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/post?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com>
List-Help: <http://groups.google.com/support/?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+help@googlegroups.com>
List-Archive: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en_US>
Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com
List-Subscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/subscribe?hl=en_US>, <mailto:lojban+subscribe@googlegroups.com>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://groups.google.com/group/lojban/subscribe?hl=en_US>, <mailto:googlegroups-manage+1004133512417+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/)
X-Spam_score: -0.7
X-Spam_score_int: -6
X-Spam_bar: /

>> "In a mathematical sense, a circle defined parametrically in a positive
>> Cartesian
>> plane<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_coordinate_system#Orientation_and_.22handedness.22>by
>> the equations
>> *x* = cos *t* and *y* = sin *t* is traced counterclockwise as *t*
>> increases
>> in value."
>>
>> That's pure math right there.

Well, that's Wikipedia maths.

In University and Ecole Normale, we are taught tensor algebra, which
clearly states that the notion of clockwise and counterclockwise is
arbitrary.   If the only thing you can oppose to me is a commonplace
cyclopedia collected by amateurs, and not the works of high-status
mathematicians, then I consider you have contributed no critique at
all.

Buy a book of high grade mathematics, and come back later.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.