Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:35860) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T08hR-0003wL-7s; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:45 -0700 Received: by yenq11 with SMTP id q11sf2771255yen.16 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=rrX/x4YH4UnA17WsKP9cj4e3zEaztYQFUIf/JRKv7S8=; b=l0VnYtASli+QDte+Zhic+etdJ6mYvgt7NwiRuN7vH2p56TjdTA6NnqEV+1A4AZVlik LCLNKKDKKruuWM5t9mI0GwWAmZeY3N33tSoHlBwQfJCdc5nIFiSasRTgAmIl0bgOM9+x WxsE0qOylHrizzU6QqCHHLpt2QPQkjmYedxJ0= Received: by 10.52.180.202 with SMTP id dq10mr783645vdc.17.1344680014694; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.93.40 with SMTP id cr8ls3878200vdb.8.gmail; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.248.41 with SMTP id yj9mr255163vec.17.1344680014181; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.248.41 with SMTP id yj9mr255162vec.17.1344680014170; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t4si225483vds.3.2012.08.11.03.13.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.175; Received: by vcbfy27 with SMTP id fy27so2272293vcb.6 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.149.79 with SMTP id s15mr4629784vcv.71.1344680014067; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.58.252.104 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2012 03:13:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9afe3883-606f-436f-a383-c54dbb5bc688@googlegroups.com> References: <9afe3883-606f-436f-a383-c54dbb5bc688@googlegroups.com> From: ".arpis." Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 06:13:13 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {lo broda cu brode} vs. {lo brode cu broda} vs. {broda je brode} vs. {brode no'oi broda} vs. Lesniewski vs. NLP To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Not that I'm an expert, but I'd expect that you understand it the same way. Assuming for simplicity one-place predicates, you can view them as sets. {lo broda cu brode} asserts that a thing which is a broda is a member of the set of brode, while {lo brode cu broda} asserts the corresponding fact. {broda je brode} creates a new predicate which is a set intersection of broda and brode. On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Can anyone tell me the difference between > > {lo broda cu brode} vs. {lo brode cu broda} vs. {broda je brode} > What is more interesting that latros entered a new cmavo {no'oi} which is > the same as {noi} but applied to selbri. > And {lo=3Dzo'e noi}. > If so what's the difference between > {lo broda cu brode} vs. {lo brode cu broda} vs. {broda je brode} vs. {bro= de > no'oi broda}? > > Next. > In Lesniewski's logic "a =E5 b" means "Earth is a planet", "Alice is a hu= man" > but not vice versa. > In Natural Language Processing there is a predicate "instance-of" so that > "New York is a city" turns into "New York is an-instance-of a city". > > How should I understand the same stuff in Lojban? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/TCytGgWgTjUJ. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. --=20 mu'o mi'e .arpis. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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