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aionys, your tone in this message is no better, and you seem to be
ignoring the fact that there are arbitrary conventions in place for
determining that direction, even in the "purely mathematical"
definition you used.

On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 6:15 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 2:08 AM, Escape Landsome <escaaape@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> "In a mathematical sense, a circle defined parametrically in a positive
>> >> Cartesian
>> >>
>> >> plane<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_coordinate_system#Orientation_and_.22handedness.22>by
>> >> the equations
>> >> *x* = cos *t* and *y* = sin *t* is traced counterclockwise as *t*
>> >> increases
>> >> in value."
>> >>
>> >> That's pure math right there.
>>
>> Well, that's Wikipedia maths.
>>
>> In University and Ecole Normale, we are taught tensor algebra, which
>> clearly states that the notion of clockwise and counterclockwise is
>> arbitrary.   If the only thing you can oppose to me is a commonplace
>> cyclopedia collected by amateurs, and not the works of high-status
>> mathematicians, then I consider you have contributed no critique at
>> all.
>>
>> Buy a book of high grade mathematics, and come back later.
>
>
> Your tone is dismissive and inflammatory, serves no useful or beneficial
> purpose to anyone including yourself, and merely provokes a response to be
> equally dismissive of you /in general/.
>
> It doesn't matter what "grade" of math is being used. (And by the way, it's
> not "Wikipedia maths". It's a parametric equation, which is calculus. The
> fact that I found it on Wikipedia is incidental.) You asked for a purely
> mathematical way of describing rotational motion that distinguishes counter-
> and clock-wise directions. I have done so.
>
>
> --
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