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So Robin entered right-hand rule to Gismu issues page.

Can you provide some examples of it's usage with all places filled in? Is 
it culturally-neutral (both left and right direction can be equally used)?

btw, lindar started this topic because he NEEDED a way of expressing the 
concept of "clockwise".

doi loi jbobadna, where are the examples after all?

On Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:34:00 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM, djandus <jan...@gmail.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> I don't have time to go over every post in this thread, especially seeing 
>> as it is rather full of people getting offended.
>>
>> Has anyone brought up the right-hand rule? (for rotations)
>>
>> That is, for the wheels on a car, I could say:
>> {lo karce xislu cu carna zo'e lo zunle be lo karce}
>> because if you were to stick your right thumb to the car's left, your 
>> fingers would curl around in the direction of rotation. This is consistent 
>> with the overall standard of the right-hand rule, which comes up on this 
>> topic via the cross product definition of angular motion. That is, if I 
>> were to be asked the "direction" of the angular motion, momentum, or 
>> similar, it would be to the car's left. This *is* arbitrary, but 
>> completely standardized in physics.
>>
>
> I believe Pierre did, yes.
>  
>
>> Similarly, I would say that a top would be {carna zo'e lo gapru} if it 
>> were spinning counter-clockwise when viewed from above. If I were to 
>> instruct one to remove a screw, I could say {ko cargau lo klupe ku zo'e lo 
>> bartu}, because the direction a screw moves and the direction it needs to 
>> rotate correspond by the same standard right-hand rule. If I were to use 
>> the carna2 spot, the axis would probably be defined with a direction as 
>> "positive," after which I could then use {li ni'u}/{li ma'u} in carna3. 
>> (This would be the establisment of a coordinate system.) If the axis was 
>> given descriptively without a direction, then my other examples illustrate 
>> how I would deal with that.
>>
>> Is there anything terribly wrong with these examples?
>> mu'o mi'e djos
>>
>
> I don't see anything. 
>
> -- 
> mu'o mi'e .aionys.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
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So Robin entered right-hand rule to Gismu issues page.<div><br></div><div>C=
an you provide some examples of it's usage with all places filled in? Is it=
 culturally-neutral (both left and right direction can be equally used)?</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>btw, lindar started this topic because he NEEDED a w=
ay of expressing the concept of "clockwise".</div><div><br></div><div>doi l=
oi jbobadna, where are the examples after all?<br><br>On Sunday, August 12,=
 2012 12:34:00 AM UTC+4, aionys wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
: 1ex;"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 10:11 AM=
, djandus <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" g=
df-obfuscated-mailto=3D"_Nwleke4px8J">jan...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote=
:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-le=
ft:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I don't have time to go over every post in this thread, especially seeing a=
s it is rather full of people getting offended.<div><br></div><div>Has anyo=
ne brought up the right-hand rule? (for rotations)</div><div><br></div>
<div>That is, for the wheels on a car, I could say:</div><div>{lo karce xis=
lu cu carna zo'e lo zunle be lo karce}</div><div>because if you were to sti=
ck your right thumb to the car's left, your fingers would curl around in th=
e direction of rotation. This is consistent with the overall standard of th=
e right-hand rule, which comes up on this topic via the cross product defin=
ition of angular motion. That is, if I were to be asked the "direction" of =
the angular motion, momentum, or similar, it would be to the car's left. Th=
is <i>is</i>&nbsp;arbitrary, but completely standardized in physics.</div>
</blockquote><div><br>I believe Pierre did, yes.<br>&nbsp;</div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc soli=
d;padding-left:1ex"><div></div><div>Similarly, I would say that a top would=
 be {carna zo'e lo gapru} if it were spinning counter-clockwise when viewed=
 from above. If I were to instruct one to remove a screw, I could say {ko c=
argau lo klupe ku zo'e lo bartu}, because the direction a screw moves and t=
he direction it needs to rotate correspond by the same standard right-hand =
rule. If I were to use the carna2 spot, the axis would probably be defined =
with a direction as "positive," after which I could then use {li ni'u}/{li =
ma'u} in carna3. (This would be the establisment of a coordinate system.) I=
f the axis was given descriptively without a direction, then my other examp=
les illustrate how I would deal with that.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Is there anything terribly wrong with these examples?</=
div><div>mu'o mi'e djos</div></blockquote><div><br>I don't see anything. <b=
r></div></div><br>-- <br>mu'o mi'e .aionys.<br><br>
.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o<br>(Co=
me to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>
</blockquote></div>

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