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iesk wrote:
> ba'e pe'i di'e
>
> You are free and officially sanctioned to fake a smile. Politicians do
> fake smiles. In spite of all that, a smile usually means something to
> you (not in a propositional way). However that works, that's how UIs
> should work.
>
> Whenever human beings smile, we are *usually* entitled to say that they
> are happy (I=92m simplifying, obviously). You are wise to assume that
> *some* instances of smiling are fake, but you just don't assume that
> *all* smiles are fake. If you did, you'd probably end up being
> considered mentally ill or something.
>
> Whenever a Lojban speaker says {.ui}, same thing. It is part of the
> Lojban Sprachspiel.^^
>
> Whenever I feel like giving in to the temptation of thinking about UIs
> in terms of truth and falsehood, I remind myself that UIs are
> essentially like body language, viz. (to the ideal Lojban speaker) they
> are a natural extension and, if you will, enrichment of it. Verbalised
> non-verbal communication.

go'i iecai

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