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On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Alex Rozenshteyn <rpglover64@gmail.com> wrote:
>> .a'o la djan pu tolcri lo jaspu be dy
>> "Hopefully, John found his passport."
>
> Can't this also be viewed as "There's hope! John found his passport."
> If not, how would I express that?

I would say: ".a'o .i la djan pu tolcri lo jaspu be dy"

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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