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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 08/12/2012 11:15 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:17:20 PM UTC+4, .arpis. wrote: >>> >>>> But you still need to specify which thumb. >>> >>> The right one; that's why it's a right hand rule. >>> >>>> Is there no escape from this? >>> >>> No, there isn't; as aionus pointed out, you need a reference frame. >>> >> Unfortunately, it's not culturally neutral. >> > > Yes it is. It's lack of neutrality is not cultural. [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (celestialcognition[at]gmail.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid On 08/12/2012 11:15 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:17:20 PM UTC+4, .arpis. wrote: >>> >>>> But you still need to specify which thumb. >>> >>> The right one; that's why it's a right hand rule. >>> >>>> Is there no escape from this? >>> >>> No, there isn't; as aionus pointed out, you need a reference frame. >>> >> Unfortunately, it's not culturally neutral. >> > > Yes it is. It's lack of neutrality is not cultural. Unless, perhaps, someone can cite different existing cultures doing it differently. But I don't think that's the case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.