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On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:21 PM, vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com>wrote:

> On 08/12/2012 11:15 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Gleki Arxokuna <
> gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:17:20 PM UTC+4, .arpis. wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> But you still need to specify which thumb.
> >>>
> >>> The right one; that's why it's a right hand rule.
> >>>
> >>>> Is there no escape from this?
> >>>
> >>> No, there isn't; as aionus pointed out, you need a reference frame.
> >>>
> >> Unfortunately, it's not culturally neutral.
> >>
> >
> > Yes it is. It's lack of neutrality is not cultural.
>
> Unless, perhaps, someone can cite different existing cultures doing it
> differently. But I don't think that's the case.
>

You don't seem to understand what culturally neutral means. If there is no
culture that does a certain thing differently than the other cultures, than
us also doing it that way is /not/ culturally biased. In order for it to be
biased, it has to be something one (subset) of the various cultures do in
this way.

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:21 PM, vitci&#39;i <s=
pan dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:celestialcognition@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">celestialcognition@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On 08/12/2012 11:15 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote:<br>
&gt; On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Gleki Arxokuna &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a><br>
&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sunday, August 12, 2012 8:17:20 PM UTC+4, .arpis. wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; But you still need to specify which thumb.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; The right one; that&#39;s why it&#39;s a right hand rule.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there no escape from this?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; No, there isn&#39;t; as aionus pointed out, you need a referen=
ce frame.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Unfortunately, it&#39;s not culturally neutral.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes it is. It&#39;s lack of neutrality is not cultural.<br>
<br>
</div>Unless, perhaps, someone can cite different existing cultures doing i=
t<br>
differently. But I don&#39;t think that&#39;s the case.<br></blockquote></d=
iv><br clear=3D"all">You don&#39;t seem to understand what culturally neutr=
al means. If there is no culture that does a certain thing differently than=
 the other cultures, than us also doing it that way is /not/ culturally bia=
sed. In order for it to be biased, it has to be something one (subset) of t=
he various cultures do in this way. <br>
<br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo piln=
o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Lu=
ke, I am your father. :D )<br><br>

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