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On Monday, August 13, 2012 5:07:41 AM UTC-5, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
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> See Gismu issues changelog in lojban.org wiki.

You mean here<http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+gismu+Issues#Uncategorized_Other_Issues>? 
He seems to be advocating the usage of two words, one for "turning" and one 
for "rotating", which I advocate. You seem to be discussing the use of two 
different words for "rotating", which I don't. Later, in your latest email, 
you seem to mention saving the second word for now, which is a good idea.

In general, I don't care what gismu is chosen, as long as one is. However, 
I'm still afraid you've defined the wrong word. That is, we need *counter*clockwise, 
as these two definitions are equivalent:

> x1 is spinning about axis x2 such that if your right hand's fingers are 
> curling in the direction of rotation, your thumb would be pointing in 
> direction x3 (along the x2 axis).

from the BPFK page, and

> x1 is spinning counter-clockwise about axis x2 seen from side/perspective 
> x3.


Also, if we're actually making a new word, I'd like to mention something. I 
generally find the axis usage clunky and rarely necessary, as it is often 
easier to give a more specific direction than an axis, in English or Lojban 
alike. Thus, the axis spot is mainly useful wrapped in {lo SE broda ku}. 
Shouldn't the x3 spot be the axis, then?

mu'o mi'e djos

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On Monday, August 13, 2012 5:07:41 AM UTC-5, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:<blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left:=
 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">See Gismu issues changelog in <a href=
=3D"http://lojban.org" target=3D"_blank">lojban.org</a> wiki.</blockquote><=
div>You mean&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+gis=
mu+Issues#Uncategorized_Other_Issues">here</a>? He seems to be advocating t=
he usage of two words, one for "turning" and one for "rotating", which I ad=
vocate. You seem to be discussing the use of two different words for "rotat=
ing", which I don't. Later, in your latest email, you seem to mention savin=
g the second word for now, which is a good idea.</div><div><br></div><div>I=
n general, I don't care what gismu is chosen, as long as one is. However, I=
'm still afraid you've defined the wrong word. That is, we need <i>counter<=
/i>clockwise, as these two definitions are equivalent:</div><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1=
px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; paddin=
g-left: 1ex; ">x1 is spinning about axis x2 such that if your right hand's =
fingers are curling in the direction of rotation, your thumb would be point=
ing in direction x3 (along the x2 axis).</blockquote><div>from the BPFK pag=
e, and</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); borde=
r-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; ">x1 is spinning counter-clockwise =
about axis x2 seen from side/perspective x3.</blockquote><div><br></div><di=
v>Also, if we're actually making a new word, I'd like to mention something.=
 I generally find the axis usage clunky and rarely necessary, as it is ofte=
n easier to give a more specific direction than an axis, in English or Lojb=
an alike. Thus, the axis spot is mainly useful wrapped in {lo SE broda ku}.=
 Shouldn't the x3 spot be the axis, then?</div><div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'=
e djos</div>

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