Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:65077) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T14Fn-0000Re-DS; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:41:14 -0700 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14sf1720702wib.16 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=tfKM9t/sZT59May48SuQnmomv6o2kWPRzZIWBK2+f0k=; b=HhAwYn6ns/dLhQdzKaHX7CRyuVPTXOYO7ZUASMZaxdpCUlbVSC7wCoSJmVj1qpYD8Y gXpdsP+y/AS3B4P9mmYvbP5s0kFHYbAXS9+VxM/MDiAoIOzQsRavQokflOVM/YfN07EK jUrH7Cttj3MCBhbA0thkPPJKNrvyXJdNzcv4U= Received: by 10.180.93.137 with SMTP id cu9mr708292wib.1.1344901251655; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:51 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.224.130 with SMTP id x2ls656109eep.7.gmail; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.194.132 with SMTP id m4mr11005457een.0.1344901250737; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.194.132 with SMTP id m4mr11005455een.0.1344901250728; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f175.google.com (mail-ey0-f175.google.com [209.85.215.175]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d5si1139728eep.0.2012.08.13.16.40.50 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.175 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.175; Received: by eaad12 with SMTP id d12so1253515eaa.20 for ; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.181.132 with SMTP id l4mr12311363eem.17.1344901250591; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.95.78 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:40:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <50255C09.10805@lojban.org> <5027F722.2000607@lojban.org> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 20:40:50 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {.au}/{djica}={.ai}/{?}. No gismu for intention From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.175 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > I wanted to express the meaning "I intended to..." > But Robin said that {zu'edji} is fine for expressing "intention". I think there are two important differences between wanting to do something and intending to do it. In order to intend to do something, you have to believe that you can do it, whereas you could wish to do it even knowing that you can't. The other difference is that you may intend to do something that you don't really want to do, but for some reason you feel that you must. So what you want to do is something desirable for you, whereas what you intend to do need not be desirable. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.