Received: from mail-bk0-f61.google.com ([209.85.214.61]:40910) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T1QQ2-00069C-Pj; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:21:14 -0700 Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4sf288485bkw.16 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=30/b8q/fhp8oFMhMMMitWqNumNIjlY5EWjnsQt0OdJQ=; b=GY0Md/nfjh/rBrfx0hl083Vf2AS8hhOCk7zJkp4bfPtme5rzNrzm0CHd7J6BlKNlvo WsFZxgbJmKT93Jdy2lyjmKcotbIkpIOBJQsyP+ieQ5AbU0fjOSM6ioXl1IPgzJSxqQhm 2H+nrtRDR4tblHvh/tIYP+Vmw4DvHZ3/0pVr0= Received: by 10.216.225.10 with SMTP id y10mr406025wep.11.1344986452262; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:52 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.198.197 with SMTP id v45ls334404een.3.gmail; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.173.68 with SMTP id u44mr10806350eel.3.1344986451546; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.173.68 with SMTP id u44mr10806349eel.3.1344986451537; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f176.google.com (mail-ey0-f176.google.com [209.85.215.176]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 46si5103351eed.1.2012.08.14.16.20.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.176; Received: by mail-ey0-f176.google.com with SMTP id d1so352382eab.35 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.172.129 with SMTP id t1mr21900408eel.34.1344986451427; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.95.78 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 16:20:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7d48cac2-71bc-4126-b186-043bf4f1d72f@googlegroups.com> References: <50255C09.10805@lojban.org> <5027F722.2000607@lojban.org> <7d48cac2-71bc-4126-b186-043bf4f1d72f@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:20:51 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {.au}/{djica}={.ai}/{?}. No gismu for intention From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.176 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > How would you express the second meaning of "what you intend to do need not > be desirable. "? We don't have a good word for "intend", but assuming we can ignore the problems of "platu", then "lo se platu be do ka'a na se djica" (or "na bi'ai se djica"). For some reason "se platu" became the preferred word for (computer) program though, which I'm not sure how to reconcile with intentions. Also platu has an x3 which I don't understand, and my ideal word for "intend" would not be restricted to things that are to happen in the future of the intending. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.