Received: from mail-we0-f189.google.com ([74.125.82.189]:65299) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T1UcY-0007ZV-Jn; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:27 -0700 Received: by weyu3 with SMTP id u3sf326390wey.16 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=JP5irM8ETSQJxK+Tzaw8Ck2B5QrN0TDMY+lUCnKauBc=; b=cztL8L8BWtOSeOWoW8rrG8JW77PIcOf5RSWUo7zFcDRwYvVKqIu8RITNopDna4UbnN iAbDiXlfm3yP5Bw3hTBWBx1NcbpbSxQ3SjYSbJpWSuIxmoaLelryWraf2J15VzObFbRe jLJz5uUnd75IYe29xFa0TOpTAwQO9PY9CAlVw= Received: by 10.204.145.73 with SMTP id c9mr671411bkv.16.1345002606018; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.7.213 with SMTP id e21ls967821bke.2.gmail; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.128.207 with SMTP id l15mr2103148bks.4.1345002604967; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.128.207 with SMTP id l15mr2103147bks.4.1345002604946; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com (mail-lb0-f173.google.com [209.85.217.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si70325bks.2.2012.08.14.20.50.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.173; Received: by lbbgm13 with SMTP id gm13so721575lbb.32 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.104.77 with SMTP id gc13mr17788025lab.31.1345002604524; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.123.19 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Aug 2012 20:50:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8ccd89cb-defa-4d40-a77f-e0029180fc5f@googlegroups.com> <26a88634-94ee-4912-a307-0e200d75e81e@googlegroups.com> <9d898abb-f2c8-4c66-aaf3-fbc0af353d78@googlegroups.com> <958b4c89-a5cf-4525-adcd-d295ecc9f9e4@googlegroups.com> <20120814204807.GE22895@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:50:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Direction of Rotation From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04083adb76f62b04c745d28c X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04083adb76f62b04c745d28c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Mike S. wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Robin Lee Powell < > rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 01:03:11AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> > No, Robin suggested making Lojban have one word for "turn", and >> > one for "rotate". This would mean making carna mean one of the >> > two, and making a new word for the other. >> > >> > In other words, going from: >> > >> > carna : x1 turns/rotates/revolves around axis x2 in direction x3. >> > >> > To: >> > carna : x1 turns from x2 to x3 >> > >> > > Nice, but I might suggest x1 turns _towards_ x2 from (facing) x3 > > The destination is usually more salient than the origin, cf. klama, bevri, > etc. > Meh. You know, whichever. I had the x2/x3 like that because the current usage of carna, when using it as turn, uses the x3 as the destination. > > lo pezli cu carna la solri > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Mike S. <maikx= lx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:48 P= M, Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org> = wrote:
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 01:03:11AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote:
> No, Robin suggested making Lojban have one word for "turn", = and
> one for "rotate". This would mean making carna mean one of t= he
> two, and making a new word for the other.
>
> In other words, going from:
>
> carna : x1 turns/rotates/revolves around axis x2 in direction x3.
>
> To:
> carna : x1 turns from x2 to x3
>

Nice, but I might suggest x1 turns _tow= ards_ x2 from (facing) x3

The destination is usually more salient th= an the origin, cf. klama, bevri, etc.=A0

Meh. You know, whichever. I had the x2/x3 like that because the current= usage of carna, when using it as turn, uses the x3 as the destination.
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lo pezli cu carna la solri

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