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Am 15.08.2012 15:33, schrieb la gleki:
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:04:33 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
>
>     Am 15.08.2012 14:35, schrieb la gleki:
>>     I couldn't reply to the post
>>     <https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/e1QaF7iQv1o/discussion>(du=
e
>>     to server error every time i tried to send my reply) so I'm
>>     creating another topic.
>>
>>     This is really an interesting question.
>>     *Any* ideas of how to express "any" in Lojban?
>>     I can clearly feel the difference between "any" and
>>     "each/every/all" ({ro}) but I can't describe it.
>
>     Logically, "any" is su'o/ro/no:
>     mi na ponse [su'o] da  (same as mi ponse no da)
>     I don't have anything.
>
>     xu do ponse [su'o] da
>     Do you possess anything?
>
>     For the sentence in question ("Which book do you want?" =97 "I'll
>     take any"), you can also use su'o:
>     A: ma poi cukta cu jai se djica do
>     B: su'o boi cy / su'o lo cukta
>
>     The emphasis seems different, which is why I personally like to
>     use {ma kau} for some of these cases.
>     mi djica lo nu klama ma kau
>     I want to go wherever
>
> The same for "anywhere, anytime, anyway"?

All those things are the same thing, just in different sumti places. You=20
can say
mi citka ma kau
mi citka ca ma kau
mi citka bu'u ma kau
mi citka ta'i ma kau
mi citka tai ma kau
etc.

This is just something I do, I don't know who else would accept such usage.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Am 15.08.2012 15:33, schrieb la gleki:<b=
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      On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 5:04:33 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote:
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          <div><tt>Am 15.08.2012 14:35, schrieb la gleki:<br>
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          <blockquote type=3D"cite"><tt>I couldn't reply to the <a
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              <div><tt>This is really an interesting question.</tt></div>
              <div><tt>*Any* ideas of how to express "any" in Lojban?</tt><=
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              <div><tt>I can clearly feel the difference between "any"
                  and "each/every/all" ({ro}) but I can't describe it.</tt>=
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          <tt><br>
            Logically, "any" is su'o/ro/no:<br>
            mi na ponse [su'o] da=A0 (same as mi ponse no da)<br>
            I don't have anything.<br>
            <br>
            xu do ponse [su'o] da<br>
            Do you possess anything?<br>
            <br>
            For the sentence in question ("Which book do you want?" =97
            "I'll take any"), you can also use su'o:<br>
            A: ma poi cukta cu jai se djica do<br>
            B: su'o boi cy / su'o lo cukta<br>
            <br>
            The emphasis seems different, which is why I personally like
            to use {ma kau} for some of these cases.<br>
            mi djica lo nu klama ma kau<br>
            I want to go wherever<br>
          </tt></div>
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      <div>The same for "anywhere,=A0anytime,=A0anyway"?</div>
    </blockquote>
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      All those things are the same thing, just in different sumti
      places. You can say <br>
      mi citka ma kau<br>
      mi citka ca ma kau<br>
      mi citka bu'u ma kau<br>
      mi citka ta'i ma kau<br>
      mi citka tai ma kau<br>
      etc.<br>
      <br>
      This is just something I do, I don't know who else would accept
      such usage.<br>
      <br>
      mu'o mi'e la selpa'i</tt><br>
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