Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:58110) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T1fIY-0007Cf-C5; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:14:33 -0700 Received: by lban1 with SMTP id n1sf529971lba.16 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:14:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=a8qC7Wecw8ddLsyyeGiRZBuTs3ZCcKsFbUT0bmW2D50=; b=yiqvPYeyFqnbdNHCBUFdK9n/O4qUs5oEg0742MTFa3rGqKp6gdk2qa7X2OeeUXJ6jj TREs4nriSZg+UTip0ursGE4TimD+8gcyYv6lvbsEVFdg5QiUu6GsbmbvWsqQCejeB86Q inl3Zm+a74/L69H7olQqQeh/LGGyhXURu4ldc= Received: by 10.216.232.224 with SMTP id n74mr343781weq.5.1345043649349; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:14:09 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.201.22 with SMTP id a22ls1839995weo.5.gmail; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.38 with SMTP id gj6mr2934123wib.0.1345043648864; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.105.38 with SMTP id gj6mr2934122wib.0.1345043648855; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id fb20si3347063wid.3.2012.08.15.08.14.08; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 08:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.22; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Aug 2012 15:14:08 -0000 Received: from p57A08DDA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.141.218] by mail.gmx.net (mp030) with SMTP; 15 Aug 2012 17:14:08 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19NYisqn5tNnsxKi7DTUjVqhL3sgP1w4RH+c6P97w Fe655GwE3qZpgQ Message-ID: <502BBCBE.7020203@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:14:06 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro} References: <44e6fb5c-91f3-47ba-817c-8560c9c6ca14@googlegroups.com> <201208151105.29527.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <201208151105.29527.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Am 15.08.2012 17:05, schrieb Pierre Abbat: > On Wednesday 15 August 2012 08:35:28 la gleki wrote: >> I couldn't reply to the post >> (due to >> server error every time i tried to send my reply) so I'm creating another >> topic. >> >> This is really an interesting question. >> *Any* ideas of how to express "any" in Lojban? >> I can clearly feel the difference between "any" and "each/every/all" ({ro}) >> but I can't describe it. > The French for that is "n'importe quel", and the Spanish is "no importa cual" > (or is it "importe"? the French is ambiguous), so maybe something > like "nalvaidza". ("mo" has no rafsi, and I'm not sure what to use as the third rafsi.) I invented -mo'e- as rafsi for {mo} some time ago. I agree that in each natlang realization of this idea, there is a hint of "it's doesn't matter", so this might a good path to go down. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.