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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:46 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>wrote:

> The problem with Lojban metaphors (in the real meaning of the term) is
> that any time someone suggests ones, someone else points out (usually
> correctly) that it doesn't work for speakers of some other language, which
> has a different metaphor tradition.  Metaphors rely heavily on culture and
> Lojban doesn't have one to fall back on, alas.
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
> *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Monday, June 25, 2012 11:32 AM
> *Subject:* [lojban] Re: linguistic singularity
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2012 3:23:57 PM UTC+4, buro...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
> coi
>
> jonathan: some subjects has special trance you can't ignore.
>
> ianek: here I wrote in simple words you can repeate reading many time
> to understand.
>
> gleki: the links which you suggested is covered by lojban just, but
> there few books add something different whatever its title.
>
> = The topics you suggested with your references concern lojban only,
> but there are also a few books that concern also other topics of
> interest.
>
>  I suggest other books for personal development.
> The Ithkuil Grammar <http://ithkuil.net/>
> "Metaphors We Live By" George Lakoff and Mark Johnson.
>
> They don't cover lojban at all.
> Ithkuil is a complicated constructed language not as well thought out as
> lojban but still worth reading.
> Metaphors are very interesting topic. Lojban actually mostly lacks
> metaphors. I wish we created more of them. G. Lakoff's book is now a
> classic.
>
> thanks
>
> ki'es,di'es,nanmus
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0ko jungau la nikyge&#39;u la&#39;e di&#39;u<div><br></d=
iv><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:46 PM, John E Clifford <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:kali9putra@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">kali9putra@yahoo.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>The problem with Lojban =
metaphors (in the real meaning of the term) is that any time someone sugges=
ts ones, someone else points out (usually correctly) that it doesn&#39;t wo=
rk for speakers of some other language, which has a different metaphor trad=
ition.=A0 Metaphors rely heavily on culture and Lojban doesn&#39;t have one=
 to fall back on, alas.<br>
</span></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family:times new roman,new=
 york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style=3D"font-family:times new roma=
n,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Ari=
al"> <hr size=3D"1">
  <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> gleki &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com" target=3D"_blank">lojban@googlegroups.=
com</a> <br>
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 25, 2012=
 11:32 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [lojb=
an] Re: linguistic singularity<br> </font> </div><div><div class=3D"h5"> <b=
r>

<div><br><br>On Monday, June 25, 2012 3:23:57 PM UTC+4, <a href=3D"mailto:b=
uro...@yahoo.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">buro...@yahoo.co.uk</a> wrote:<blockq=
uote style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">
coi
<br>
<br>jonathan: some subjects has special trance you can&#39;t ignore.
<br>
<br>ianek: here I wrote in simple words you can repeate reading many time
<br>to understand.
<br>
<br>gleki: the links which you suggested is covered by lojban just, but
<br>there few books add something different whatever its title.
<br>
<br></blockquote>=3D The topics you suggested with your references concern =
lojban only,=A0<br>but there are also a few books that concern also other t=
opics of=A0<br><div>interest.=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=A0I suggest othe=
r books for personal development.</div>
<div><a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://ithkuil.net/" target=3D"_blank">The=
 Ithkuil Grammar</a></div><div>&quot;Metaphors We Live By&quot; George Lako=
ff=A0and Mark Johnson.</div><div><br></div><div>They don&#39;t cover lojban=
 at all.</div>
<div>Ithkuil is a complicated constructed language not as well thought out =
as lojban but still worth reading.</div><div>Metaphors are very interesting=
 topic. Lojban actually mostly lacks metaphors. I wish we created more of t=
hem. G. Lakoff&#39;s book is now a classic.</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex">thanks
<br>
<br>ki&#39;es,di&#39;es,nanmus
<br>
<br></blockquote>



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