Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:41244) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T1lc5-0002NP-Up; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:59:02 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf2183481qca.16 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=AvknwKz1jQQVwzeZC+4sWh1pOXmcLjUP4mbbV870VDU=; b=gv9kfL1HXJwDTgYT5w+jTxMAr3sNJERK+wK4jAaNzf1rEd9nzTgSaVmryVyhADineA uaYHKoCEtr8yjg9D7QiZ1rKxgcBbmfxh+kGsHJ8oSvB9M5sbRdqt6EVgSXe+LzybwqpC orWVjQFeL+tWYy7iZXvNGYqZ/aJN58nghJ1Go= Received: by 10.68.129.69 with SMTP id nu5mr844411pbb.17.1345067926222; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:46 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.195.39 with SMTP id ib7ls3997437pbc.9.gmail; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.73.228 with SMTP id o4mr2651652pav.32.1345067925407; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.73.228 with SMTP id o4mr2651650pav.32.1345067925395; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com (mail-pb0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nv4si1200049pbc.2.2012.08.15.14.58.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.47; Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so478079pbc.34 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.83.8 with SMTP id m8mr27360765pay.48.1345067925207; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.213.67 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 14:58:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <50255C09.10805@lojban.org> <5027F722.2000607@lojban.org> <7d48cac2-71bc-4126-b186-043bf4f1d72f@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:58:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {.au}/{djica}={.ai}/{?}. No gismu for intention From: "Mike S." To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: maikxlx@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=maikxlx@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042ef467e179ba04c7550797 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d042ef467e179ba04c7550797 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas wro= te: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Mike S. wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas > > wrote: > >> > >> We don't have a good word for "intend", but assuming we can ignore the > >> problems of "platu", then "lo se platu be do ka'a na se djica" (or "na > >> bi'ai se djica"). > > > > It should be {lo se platu be do ka'e naku se djica}, right? > > "ka'e", yes, that was a typo. The "ku" is not needed. > Can I take "not needed" to mean "deliberately omitted in an attempt to flout the evil old NA-scope rule out of existence"? --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --f46d042ef467e179ba04c7550797 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Jorge Llamb= =EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:20 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> We don't have a good word for "in= tend", but assuming we can ignore the
>> problems of "platu", then "lo se platu be do ka'= ;a na se djica" (or "na
>> bi'ai se djica").
>
> It should be {lo se platu be do ka'e naku se djica}, right?

"ka'e", yes, that was a typo. The "ku" is not= needed.

Can I take "not needed" to mea= n "deliberately omitted in an attempt to flout the evil old NA-scope r= ule out of existence"?


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