Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:50414) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T1mtD-0003Bw-0W; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:52 -0700 Received: by fada11 with SMTP id a11sf122158fad.16 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=t6NpUVIeU1gLWiTIfjP3fStSmCwnnl5OcNyklsoj7os=; b=0secQ8lWMMVY7SAJP9el8WRUEd25LFB0rHLTViTyJFYoEvWBHu24jzude8StqyHytr oGHrVaqYOVZVIOEWQrhph/NmkrX0QFNwjOyZHiRV4T/ghyExsoyvxGGBOd84DOXM/549 ISrHx8kPrU01V/q1Rl/dG6XMxmVspl2CksF8A= Received: by 10.180.92.168 with SMTP id cn8mr35278wib.1.1345072831325; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.14.209.195 with SMTP id s43ls587667eeo.5.gmail; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.193.195 with SMTP id k43mr10167465een.7.1345072830418; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.193.195 with SMTP id k43mr10167464een.7.1345072830409; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ey0-f172.google.com (mail-ey0-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 46si3701131eed.1.2012.08.15.16.20.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.172 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.172; Received: by eaai11 with SMTP id i11so679680eaa.17 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.177.193 with SMTP id d41mr19681860eem.19.1345072830241; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.14.95.78 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Aug 2012 16:20:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201208151105.29527.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <44e6fb5c-91f3-47ba-817c-8560c9c6ca14@googlegroups.com> <201208151105.29527.phma@phma.optus.nu> Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 20:20:30 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro} From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.172 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 15 August 2012 08:35:28 la gleki wrote: >> >> This is really an interesting question. >> *Any* ideas of how to express "any" in Lojban? >> I can clearly feel the difference between "any" and "each/every/all" ({ro}) >> but I can't describe it. > > The French for that is "n'importe quel", and the Spanish is "no importa cual" > (or is it "importe"? the French is ambiguous), so maybe something > like "nalvaidza". ("mo" has no rafsi, and I'm not sure what to use as the > third rafsi.) The Spanish word is "cualquiera", with a fairly transparent etymology from "whichever one wants". "No importa cual" is grammatical but not the most common way of saying it. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.