Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f61.google.com ([209.85.215.61]:33277) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T29JH-0001GN-L3; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:13 -0700 Received: by lage12 with SMTP id e12sf1045805lag.16 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=h77cHeol1ZiV0DtNDjZCyiCAyjMlaFdktDb3+RdmLgs=; b=iSfy1Ye/rOQqztJIiPK2dfG2Oap0k8JKLtQ1MeUaJjyx+fWqRPER5yOYXguui8dDuO lUSXJdbfC0/mijB53IObflvWzjczrejJtyCRBizD579LEttCCUAfc5pTrqr5bljzyPN1 towGV8RGYIro1a0MguCxonRGKMirZrFbV7J+E= Received: by 10.204.156.25 with SMTP id u25mr164734bkw.8.1345159014843; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.205.119.129 with SMTP id fu1ls2604579bkc.4.gmail; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr319174bks.3.1345159013745; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.129.81 with SMTP id n17mr319173bks.3.1345159013719; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e23si1345706bks.0.2012.08.16.16.16.53 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.180; Received: by lbon10 with SMTP id n10so1695603lbo.11 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.49.198 with SMTP id w6mr1409117lbn.58.1345159013180; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.70 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:16:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9e7740e5-4879-4ad4-8bc5-e8721fa73506@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:16:53 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Global languages by lojban From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec554df5c25a64304c76a3dc6 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec554df5c25a64304c76a3dc6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you, baroq, for finally acceding to our wishes and letting someone with a better grasp of English do the translating for you. No one thinks you are trying to insult Lojban. We believe that you are trying to do good things with it, but your efforts thus far have been rendered pointless by the simple fact that we couldn't understand you. Now that we have finally accomplished this step, I'm sure we can work together to accomplish great things with Lojban. Muhammad, if you would please translate this for him? I don't trust Google Translate. 2012/8/16 Muhammad Na'el > =E1=C7 =CF=C7=DA=ED =E1=E1=CD=D3=C7=D3=ED=C9=A1 =DD=C3=E4=C7 =E1=C7 =C3= =DE=D5=CF =CF=C7=C6=E3=C7 =C3=E4 =C3=DA=ED=C8 =E1=E6=CC=C8=C7=E4 =DD=DE=D8= =C3=D1=ED=CF =CA=D8=E6=ED=D1=E5=C7=A1 >> =C8=D3=C8=C8 =C3=E4=E5 =ED=CA=E6=E1=CF =E1=CF=ED =C3=DD=DF=C7=D1 =E3=E5= =E3=C9 =CA=CE=CA=D5=D1 =DA=E1=ED=E4=C7 =D3=E4=E6=C7=CA =E3=E4 =C7=E1=C5=E4= =CA=D9=C7=D1=A1 =E6 =C3=E4=C7 =E1=C7 =C3=DE=D5=CF >> =D4=ED=C1 =CE=C7=D5 =C8=ED =E3=E4 =E5=D0=E5 =C7=E1=D1=D3=C7=C6=E1=A1 =DD= =DE=D8 =C7=E4=C7 =C3=CA=DF=E1=E3 =E3=E4 =C3=CC=E1 =E3=D5=E1=CD=C9 =C7=E1=CC= =E3=ED=DA =E6 =E1=ED=D3 =E3=D5=E1=CD=CA=ED=A1 >> =E6 =E1=C7 =C3=CC=C8=D1 =C3=CD=CF=C7 =DA=E1=EC =DE=D1=C7=C1=C9 =D1=D3=C7= =C6=E1=ED =DD=DE=D8 =ED=DF=DD=ED =DE=D1=C7=C6=CA=E5=C7 =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E3=E5= =CA=E3=ED=E4=A1 =CD=ED=CB =CF=ED=E4=E4=C7 >> =ED=C7=E3=D1=E4=C7 =C3=E4 =E1=C7 =E4=DF=CA=E3 =C7=E1=CD=DE=ED=DE=C9. = =E6 =C3=D1=CC=E6 =C3=E4 =E4=DF=E6=E4 =DE=CF =C7=DE=CA=D1=C8=E4=C7 =DF=CB=ED= =D1=C7 =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E4=E5=C7=ED=C9 =E6 =E1=E3 >> =ED=CA=C8=DE=EC =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E3=E1=C7=CD=D9=C7=CA =C7=E1=C7 =C7=E1=DE= =E1=ED=E1... > > > > *No need to get sensitive. I did not mean to insult Lojban, ever. I only > desire its evolution. I often have great ideas that could save us years o= f > waiting. And by voicing them, by these messages of mine, I desire no > self-profit but only the benefit of all. Furthermore, I'm not forcing > anyone to read them, just those to whom they may concern as my faith > commands that truth be let known and I hope we're close to conclusion and > that there aren't many comments/suggestions left concerning the grand > scheme of the language.* > * > * > Hey! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --bcaec554df5c25a64304c76a3dc6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you, baroq, for finally acceding to our wishes and letting someone wi= th a better grasp of English do the translating for you. No one thinks you = are trying to insult Lojban. We believe that you are trying to do good thin= gs with it, but your efforts thus far have been rendered pointless by the s= imple fact that we couldn't understand you.

Now that we have finally accomplished this step, I'm sure we can wo= rk together to accomplish great things with Lojban.

Muhammad, if you= would please translate this for him? I don't trust Google Translate.
2012/8/16 Muhammad Na'el <muhamma= d.nael@gmail.com>
=E1=C7 =CF=C7=DA=ED =E1=E1=CD=D3=C7=D3=ED=C9=A1 =DD=C3=E4=C7 =E1=C7 = =C3=DE=D5=CF =CF=C7=C6=E3=C7=A0 =C3=E4 =C3=DA=ED=C8 =E1=E6=CC=C8=C7=E4 =DD= =DE=D8 =C3=D1=ED=CF =CA=D8=E6=ED=D1=E5=C7=A1 =C8=D3=C8=C8 =C3=E4=E5 =ED=CA= =E6=E1=CF =E1=CF=ED =C3=DD=DF=C7=D1 =E3=E5=E3=C9 =CA=CE=CA=D5=D1 =DA=E1=ED= =E4=C7 =D3=E4=E6=C7=CA =E3=E4 =C7=E1=C5=E4=CA=D9=C7=D1=A1 =E6 =C3=E4=C7 =E1= =C7 =C3=DE=D5=CF =D4=ED=C1 =CE=C7=D5 =C8=ED =E3=E4 =E5=D0=E5 =C7=E1=D1=D3= =C7=C6=E1=A1 =DD=DE=D8 =C7=E4=C7 =C3=CA=DF=E1=E3 =E3=E4 =C3=CC=E1 =E3=D5=E1= =CD=C9 =C7=E1=CC=E3=ED=DA =E6 =E1=ED=D3 =E3=D5=E1=CD=CA=ED=A1 =E6 =E1=C7 = =C3=CC=C8=D1 =C3=CD=CF=C7 =DA=E1=EC =DE=D1=C7=C1=C9 =D1=D3=C7=C6=E1=ED =DD= =DE=D8 =ED=DF=DD=ED =DE=D1=C7=C6=CA=E5=C7 =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E3=E5=CA=E3=ED=E4= =A1 =CD=ED=CB =CF=ED=E4=E4=C7 =ED=C7=E3=D1=E4=C7 =C3=E4 =E1=C7 =E4=DF=CA=E3= =C7=E1=CD=DE=ED=DE=C9.=A0 =E6 =C3=D1=CC=E6 =C3=E4 =E4=DF=E6=E4=A0=DE=CF = =C7=DE=CA=D1=C8=E4=C7 =DF=CB=ED=D1=C7 =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E4=E5=C7=ED=C9 =E6 =E1= =E3 =ED=CA=C8=DE=EC =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E3=E1=C7=CD=D9=C7=CA =C7=E1=C7 =C7=E1=DE= =E1=ED=E1...

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No need to get sensi= tive. I did not mean to insult Lojban, ever. I only desire its evolution. I= often have great ideas that could save us years of waiting. And by voicing= them, by these messages of mine, I desire no self-profit but only the bene= fit of all. Furthermore, I'm not forcing anyone to read them, just thos= e to whom they may concern as my faith commands that truth be let known and= I hope we're close to conclusion and that there aren't many commen= ts/suggestions left concerning the grand scheme of the language.

Hey!

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