Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:65437) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T29K8-0001HS-5x; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:18:04 -0700 Received: by eaan13 with SMTP id n13sf1047329eaa.16 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5Ensu7Dyz6CDtvShh2nGeTFAJpUopjgIDwMRZ31ZTJ0=; b=34CiwtGjhvz5oYWCcq8ocQfLYKc7YBqfsVYcGKUZLdfZOV1VHB+IP6nbPQjIm8UO9f Gqu+lnQxQ2Bn1fWjYrVaQlJmtKhu3oFjZmlY9I8vYiVI3/IQNsaKSwU8zTt2rLSIFUK7 oegKTtNHAkYW+RZGrMWdx6sUse8A5A8W1W7S0= Received: by 10.205.127.143 with SMTP id ha15mr167896bkc.13.1345159068307; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.13.17 with SMTP id z17ls2582456bkz.5.gmail; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.139.2 with SMTP id iu2mr318915bkc.7.1345159067475; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.205.139.2 with SMTP id iu2mr318914bkc.7.1345159067449; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q3si1346643bkv.1.2012.08.16.16.17.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.174; Received: by lbbgj3 with SMTP id gj3so1802518lbb.19 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.23.7 with SMTP id i7mr1395582lbf.85.1345159066972; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.70 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Aug 2012 16:17:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9e7740e5-4879-4ad4-8bc5-e8721fa73506@googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:17:46 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Global languages by lojban From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.174 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba3090e05a71d404c76a4091 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --90e6ba3090e05a71d404c76a4091 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Crap. buroq. Apologies. On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Thank you, baroq, for finally acceding to our wishes and letting someone > with a better grasp of English do the translating for you. No one thinks > you are trying to insult Lojban. We believe that you are trying to do goo= d > things with it, but your efforts thus far have been rendered pointless by > the simple fact that we couldn't understand you. > > Now that we have finally accomplished this step, I'm sure we can work > together to accomplish great things with Lojban. > > Muhammad, if you would please translate this for him? I don't trust Googl= e > Translate. > > > 2012/8/16 Muhammad Na'el > >> =E1=C7 =CF=C7=DA=ED =E1=E1=CD=D3=C7=D3=ED=C9=A1 =DD=C3=E4=C7 =E1=C7 =C3= =DE=D5=CF =CF=C7=C6=E3=C7 =C3=E4 =C3=DA=ED=C8 =E1=E6=CC=C8=C7=E4 =DD=DE=D8= =C3=D1=ED=CF =CA=D8=E6=ED=D1=E5=C7=A1 >>> =C8=D3=C8=C8 =C3=E4=E5 =ED=CA=E6=E1=CF =E1=CF=ED =C3=DD=DF=C7=D1 =E3=E5= =E3=C9 =CA=CE=CA=D5=D1 =DA=E1=ED=E4=C7 =D3=E4=E6=C7=CA =E3=E4 =C7=E1=C5=E4= =CA=D9=C7=D1=A1 =E6 =C3=E4=C7 =E1=C7 =C3=DE=D5=CF >>> =D4=ED=C1 =CE=C7=D5 =C8=ED =E3=E4 =E5=D0=E5 =C7=E1=D1=D3=C7=C6=E1=A1 = =DD=DE=D8 =C7=E4=C7 =C3=CA=DF=E1=E3 =E3=E4 =C3=CC=E1 =E3=D5=E1=CD=C9 =C7=E1= =CC=E3=ED=DA =E6 =E1=ED=D3 =E3=D5=E1=CD=CA=ED=A1 >>> =E6 =E1=C7 =C3=CC=C8=D1 =C3=CD=CF=C7 =DA=E1=EC =DE=D1=C7=C1=C9 =D1=D3= =C7=C6=E1=ED =DD=DE=D8 =ED=DF=DD=ED =DE=D1=C7=C6=CA=E5=C7 =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E3= =E5=CA=E3=ED=E4=A1 =CD=ED=CB =CF=ED=E4=E4=C7 >>> =ED=C7=E3=D1=E4=C7 =C3=E4 =E1=C7 =E4=DF=CA=E3 =C7=E1=CD=DE=ED=DE=C9. = =E6 =C3=D1=CC=E6 =C3=E4 =E4=DF=E6=E4 =DE=CF =C7=DE=CA=D1=C8=E4=C7 =DF=CB=ED= =D1=C7 =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E4=E5=C7=ED=C9 =E6 =E1=E3 >>> =ED=CA=C8=DE=EC =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E3=E1=C7=CD=D9=C7=CA =C7=E1=C7 =C7=E1=DE= =E1=ED=E1... >> >> >> >> *No need to get sensitive. I did not mean to insult Lojban, ever. I only >> desire its evolution. I often have great ideas that could save us years = of >> waiting. And by voicing them, by these messages of mine, I desire no >> self-profit but only the benefit of all. Furthermore, I'm not forcing >> anyone to read them, just those to whom they may concern as my faith >> commands that truth be let known and I hope we're close to conclusion an= d >> that there aren't many comments/suggestions left concerning the grand >> scheme of the language.* >> * >> * >> Hey! >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --90e6ba3090e05a71d404c76a4091 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Crap.

buroq. Apologies.

On Thu, Au= g 16, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wr= ote:
Thank you, baroq, for finally acceding to ou= r wishes and letting someone with a better grasp of English do the translat= ing for you. No one thinks you are trying to insult Lojban. We believe that= you are trying to do good things with it, but your efforts thus far have b= een rendered pointless by the simple fact that we couldn't understand y= ou.

Now that we have finally accomplished this step, I'm sure we can wo= rk together to accomplish great things with Lojban.

Muhammad, if you= would please translate this for him? I don't trust Google Translate.


2012/8/16 Muhammad Na'el <muhamma= d.nael@gmail.com>
=E1=C7 =CF=C7=DA=ED =E1=E1=CD=D3=C7=D3=ED=C9=A1 =DD=C3=E4=C7 =E1=C7 = =C3=DE=D5=CF =CF=C7=C6=E3=C7=A0 =C3=E4 =C3=DA=ED=C8 =E1=E6=CC=C8=C7=E4 =DD= =DE=D8 =C3=D1=ED=CF =CA=D8=E6=ED=D1=E5=C7=A1 =C8=D3=C8=C8 =C3=E4=E5 =ED=CA= =E6=E1=CF =E1=CF=ED =C3=DD=DF=C7=D1 =E3=E5=E3=C9 =CA=CE=CA=D5=D1 =DA=E1=ED= =E4=C7 =D3=E4=E6=C7=CA =E3=E4 =C7=E1=C5=E4=CA=D9=C7=D1=A1 =E6 =C3=E4=C7 =E1= =C7 =C3=DE=D5=CF =D4=ED=C1 =CE=C7=D5 =C8=ED =E3=E4 =E5=D0=E5 =C7=E1=D1=D3= =C7=C6=E1=A1 =DD=DE=D8 =C7=E4=C7 =C3=CA=DF=E1=E3 =E3=E4 =C3=CC=E1 =E3=D5=E1= =CD=C9 =C7=E1=CC=E3=ED=DA =E6 =E1=ED=D3 =E3=D5=E1=CD=CA=ED=A1 =E6 =E1=C7 = =C3=CC=C8=D1 =C3=CD=CF=C7 =DA=E1=EC =DE=D1=C7=C1=C9 =D1=D3=C7=C6=E1=ED =DD= =DE=D8 =ED=DF=DD=ED =DE=D1=C7=C6=CA=E5=C7 =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E3=E5=CA=E3=ED=E4= =A1 =CD=ED=CB =CF=ED=E4=E4=C7 =ED=C7=E3=D1=E4=C7 =C3=E4 =E1=C7 =E4=DF=CA=E3= =C7=E1=CD=DE=ED=DE=C9.=A0 =E6 =C3=D1=CC=E6 =C3=E4 =E4=DF=E6=E4=A0=DE=CF = =C7=DE=CA=D1=C8=E4=C7 =DF=CB=ED=D1=C7 =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E4=E5=C7=ED=C9 =E6 =E1= =E3 =ED=CA=C8=DE=EC =E3=E4 =C7=E1=E3=E1=C7=CD=D9=C7=CA =C7=E1=C7 =C7=E1=DE= =E1=ED=E1...

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No need to get sensi= tive. I did not mean to insult Lojban, ever. I only desire its evolution. I= often have great ideas that could save us years of waiting. And by voicing= them, by these messages of mine, I desire no self-profit but only the bene= fit of all. Furthermore, I'm not forcing anyone to read them, just thos= e to whom they may concern as my faith commands that truth be let known and= I hope we're close to conclusion and that there aren't many commen= ts/suggestions left concerning the grand scheme of the language.

Hey!

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= .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'= o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )




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.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. = :D )

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