Received: from mail-qc0-f189.google.com ([209.85.216.189]:42633) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T2M2p-0006Oh-3K; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:53:04 -0700 Received: by qcac11 with SMTP id c11sf3944769qca.16 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=q2f+a8AP2Ig+xOIEI95qhvK29hh2vGNdz+1AKSQ/s2Q=; b=ul/6UYXvwii9SvCRt/+HlKFsbmcrjRQuD6dHOd+Q0Oo1h2TqQsKlJkoyKBslmJVzAW ls+InbWY5L9nVyUi73s2yNTrMSpQ1e+Xv90RmHazXiMX2YsMqUVVB7opVWVztHVjU9mO dzi2yqhUY/Zg9yL674kLlvhTOZyi4Z2Z0W/F4= Received: by 10.52.34.115 with SMTP id y19mr649493vdi.1.1345207968374; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.35.202 with SMTP id k10ls2655812vdj.0.gmail; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.128.198 with SMTP id nq6mr884508veb.4.1345207967935; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.128.198 with SMTP id nq6mr884507veb.4.1345207967921; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t4si364773vds.3.2012.08.17.05.52.47 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.50 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.50; Received: by vbal1 with SMTP id l1so3423981vba.9 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.17.48 with SMTP id l16mr1951216vdd.98.1345207967777; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.238.129 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 05:52:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <502E37FF.5000500@gmx.de> References: <23861931-0238-4ac4-a76e-60a8ea1b4d75@googlegroups.com> <502E37FF.5000500@gmx.de> From: Paul Predkiewicz Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 14:52:17 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] {ko}, {xa'e}, {.e'u}, {e'o} To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.50 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=paul.predkiewicz@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5040b941184ef04c775a337 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec5040b941184ef04c775a337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 hm, ok. then it's simply missing in the cmavo list... http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/cmavo.txt 2012/8/17 selpa'i > Am 17.08.2012 13:47, schrieb Paul Predkiewicz: > > but {xa'e} is a rafsi of {xance}, how would you use it to say such things >> as "let's go"? >> > > -xa'e- is the rafsi, but xa'e as a cmavo is a LAhE (even though I wish it > was UI) that makes it so that the sumti it's used on is treated as if it > was ko, i.e. a third-person command. > > xa'e lo gerku cu cliva > "The dogs shall leave!" > "May the dogs leave!" > "I want the dogs to leave." > > Whether it's very useful is another question. {.e'u} will usually be > enough for cohortatives at least. > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > -- > pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/lojban?hl=en . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --bcaec5040b941184ef04c775a337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hm, ok. then it's simply missing in the cmavo list...
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201= 2/8/17 selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>
Am 17.08.2012 13:47, schrieb Paul Predkiewic= z:

but {xa'e} is a rafsi of {xance}, how would you use it to say such thin= gs as "let's go"?

-xa'e- is the rafsi, but xa'e as a cmavo is a LAhE (even though I w= ish it was UI) that makes it so that the sumti it's used on is treated = as if it was ko, i.e. a third-person command.

=A0 =A0 xa'e lo gerku cu cliva
=A0 =A0 "The dogs shall leave!"
=A0 =A0 "May the dogs leave!"
=A0 =A0 "I want the dogs to leave."

Whether it's very useful is another question. {.e'u} will usually b= e enough for cohortatives at least.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

--
pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo
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