Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:36795) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T2OAM-0000qf-J7; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:09:04 -0700 Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32sf1990713qad.16 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:08:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=d+O6PTo1ozO8q3jSNmFahqaK9Ye6A+ho+9UD4UIY6W8=; b=DDbu12eoJ7Xg6DX71PR1SKpT3MwV7X0zc5BLCsDexTrFP/WefWGBymKtFvDFSvEaKS xUZdO4xC2fPqqjegMwh9OdH1ONM+qVdiz+AoAlZPciGDhHMiA4p2tXpfTy7Mi78g1YWj qiQj0QdWW17Ve/sbHLitpMlp3mz1jnIXRTqLM= Received: by 10.52.67.71 with SMTP id l7mr783520vdt.12.1345216123938; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.52.24.76 with SMTP id s12ls2827131vdf.2.gmail; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.72.16 with SMTP id z16mr765156vdu.15.1345216123339; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 08:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <23861931-0238-4ac4-a76e-60a8ea1b4d75@googlegroups.com> <502E37FF.5000500@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [lojban] {ko}, {xa'e}, {.e'u}, {e'o} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_968_18770236.1345216122848" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_968_18770236.1345216122848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Friday, August 17, 2012 4:52:17 PM UTC+4, kamisori wrote: > > hm, ok. then it's simply missing in the cmavo list... > http://www.lojban.org/publications/wordlists/cmavo.txt > This cmavo is not official. Use vlasisku.lojban.org > > > 2012/8/17 selpa'i > > >> Am 17.08.2012 13:47, schrieb Paul Predkiewicz: >> >> but {xa'e} is a rafsi of {xance}, how would you use it to say such >>> things as "let's go"? >>> >> >> -xa'e- is the rafsi, but xa'e as a cmavo is a LAhE (even though I wish it >> was UI) that makes it so that the sumti it's used on is treated as if it >> was ko, i.e. a third-person command. >> >> xa'e lo gerku cu cliva >> "The dogs shall leave!" >> "May the dogs leave!" >> "I want the dogs to leave." >> >> Whether it's very useful is another question. {.e'u} will usually be >> enough for cohortatives at least. >> >> mu'o mi'e la selpa'i >> >> -- >> pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+un...@** >> googlegroups.com . >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/lojban?hl=en . >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/l-uEDDRQOMkJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_968_18770236.1345216122848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Friday, August 17, 2012 4:52:17 PM UTC+4, kamisori wrote:hm, ok. then it's simply missing in t= he cmavo list...
This cmavo is not official.= Use vlasisku.lojban.org 


2012/8/17 selpa'i <sel...@gmx.de>
Am 17.08.2012 13:47, schrieb Paul Predkiewic= z:

but {xa'e} is a rafsi of {xance}, how would you use it to say such things a= s "let's go"?

-xa'e- is the rafsi, but xa'e as a cmavo is a LAhE (even though I wish it w= as UI) that makes it so that the sumti it's used on is treated as if it was= ko, i.e. a third-person command.

    xa'e lo gerku cu cliva
    "The dogs shall leave!"
    "May the dogs leave!"
    "I want the dogs to leave."

Whether it's very useful is another question. {.e'u} will usually be enough= for cohortatives at least.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo
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