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Not all uses of "zombie" (in English) involve a controller; e.g. Left 4
Dead, Night of the Living Dead, Shawn of the Dead, etc.

I'd just keep the x1 place and fill in a controller with BAI when
applicable.

On the other hand, this privileges the Western corruption of the zombie
myth over its origin; perhaps the short form could be the colloquial "x1 is
a zombie (whatever that means)" and the stage-3 fu'ivla could be more
precise.

Also, I'd just like to note that I have difficulty pronouncing the terminal
{ii} to be distinct from {i}.

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:23 PM, <rdentato@gmail.com> wrote:

> On , la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just for the record.ma'a pu stidi
>
> > lu norjmive li'u e
> >
> > lu di'a jmive li'u e
> > lu ji'ermorsi li'u e
>
> A zombie is a specific kind of un-dead. In the Voodoo myth, a zombie would
> not only be called back from the death but also be controlled by the the
> one performing the ritual
>
> This last characteristic is reflected in the usage of "zombie" to
> designate computers that have been compromised and can be controlled from
> outstide.
>
> My proposal is to import the word as a fu'ivla as it is a very specific
> word, used more or less in all languages:
>
> {dzombii} -> x1 is a zombie summoned/controlled by x2
>
> remod
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Not all uses of &quot;zombie&quot; (in English) involve a controller; e.g. =
Left 4 Dead, Night of the Living Dead, Shawn of the Dead, etc.<br><br>I&#39=
;d just keep the x1 place and fill in a controller with BAI when applicable=
.<br>

<br>On the other hand, this privileges the Western corruption of the zombie=
 myth over its origin; perhaps the short form could be the colloquial &quot=
;x1 is a zombie (whatever that means)&quot; and the stage-3 fu&#39;ivla cou=
ld be more precise.<br>

<br>Also, I&#39;d just like to note that I have difficulty pronouncing the =
terminal {ii} to be distinct from {i}.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On=
 Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:23 PM,  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rde=
ntato@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rdentato@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:=
<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On , la gleki &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is=
.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br>

&gt; Just for the <a href=3D"http://record.ma" target=3D"_blank">record.ma<=
/a>&#39;a pu stidi<div class=3D"im"><br>&gt; lu norjmive li&#39;u e<br>&gt;=
 <br>&gt; lu di&#39;a jmive li&#39;u e <br>&gt; lu ji&#39;ermorsi li&#39;u =
e <br>

<br></div>A zombie is a specific kind of un-dead.  In the Voodoo myth, a zo=
mbie would not only be called back from the death but also be controlled by=
 the the one performing the ritual<br><br>This last characteristic is refle=
cted in the usage of &quot;zombie&quot; to designate computers that have be=
en compromised and can be controlled from outstide.<br>

<br>My proposal is to import the word as a fu&#39;ivla as it is a very spec=
ific word, used more or less in all languages:<br><br> {dzombii} -&gt; x1 i=
s a zombie summoned/controlled by x2<br><br>remod

<div class=3D"im HOEnZb"><p></p>

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