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Forgive me if this question is super obvious or misguided:

FAhA as a tense goes into {lo} as part of the selbri (I think): {lo zu'a 
zarci}, "store to the left". But what about FAhA as a modal, i.e., "store 
to the left of the school"?

- You could use a relative clause with the full gismu (but not all FAhA get 
a gismu).
{lo zarci poi zunle lo ckule}

- You could do a couple of awful conversions (can {jai} can even take FAhA 
instead of BAI?).
{lo sejaizu'ase zarci be lo ckule}

==> Is there a straightforward way to put a modal phrase into a description 
sumti? (How do you do za'e "internal-modals"?)


Somewhat relatedly, I was also wondering, are the following grammatical?
1.  {zu'a lo ckule [ku] cu zarci} 
2.  {lo mu'i tavla}

In other words, can {cu} separate the selbri from a modal phrase (something 
other than leading sumti)? 1. is technically an observative (I think) after 
all. Secondly, is BAI considered part of the selbri when it's used like a 
tense?

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<div>Forgive me if this question is super obvious or misguided:<br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>FAhA as a tense goes into {lo} as part of the selbri (I t=
hink): {lo zu'a zarci}, "store to the left". But what about FAhA as a modal=
, i.e., "store to the left of the school"?</div><div><br></div><div>- You c=
ould use a relative clause with the full gismu (but not all FAhA get a gism=
u).</div><div>{lo zarci poi zunle lo ckule}</div><div><br></div><div>- You =
could do a couple of awful conversions (can {jai} can even take FAhA instea=
d of BAI?).</div><div>{lo sejaizu'ase zarci be lo ckule}</div><div><br></di=
v><div>=3D=3D&gt; Is there a straightforward way to put a modal phrase into=
 a description sumti? (How do you do za'e "internal-modals"?)</div><div><br=
></div><div><br></div><div>Somewhat relatedly,&nbsp;I was also wondering, a=
re the following grammatical?</div><div>1. &nbsp;{zu'a lo ckule [ku] cu zar=
ci}&nbsp;</div><div>2. &nbsp;{lo mu'i tavla}</div><div><br></div><div>In ot=
her words, can {cu} separate the selbri from a modal phrase (something othe=
r than leading sumti)? 1. is technically an observative (I think) after all=
. Secondly, is BAI considered part of the selbri when it's used like a tens=
e?</div>

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