Received: from mail-lb0-f189.google.com ([209.85.217.189]:51276) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T2W0f-0004Dp-Mf; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:34 -0700 Received: by lban1 with SMTP id n1sf1429840lba.16 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:message-id:date:from:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bhBjEICFc3ADU4XDjKICpcLSyXcmrKZNoZLFFXukrkA=; b=VKW9/mL5nTr7hHRRMedLkXtf1Pxy/FKCq/luNGRJBy6fvYZ/m1RU+TepFB+I44MGrw GBH5jPRlca57U+YjOxe/JPK32H4atWJhkobu0iIpQEbs08E+X/8hoWq5B0D2iFW69IdZ iYHgYaTn8FaK3y9u/n2ZWyACsChxk9dLRaQeY= Received: by 10.180.82.40 with SMTP id f8mr457598wiy.3.1345246273509; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.82.231 with SMTP id l7ls2709198wiy.4.canary; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.2 with SMTP id dg2mr697195wib.2.1345246272905; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.95.2 with SMTP id dg2mr697194wib.2.1345246272897; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-f54.google.com (mail-wg0-f54.google.com [74.125.82.54]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cx9si1463981wib.0.2012.08.17.16.31.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.54; Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 1so3267019wgx.23 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.138.13 with SMTP id z13mr3288073wei.65.1345246272790; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.77] (87-194-76-177.bethere.co.uk. [87.194.76.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ep14sm12898508wid.0.2012.08.17.16.31.11 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:31:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <502ED43E.1060804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 00:31:10 +0100 From: And Rosta User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Zombie References: <000e0cd5187e58762a04c77bb7d6@google.com> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: and.rosta@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of and.rosta@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=and.rosta@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / > On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, > wrote: > We have a similar problem in Italian with "principii" (principles) and "principi" (princes). With some exercise they come out very distinct. Those two differ in stress too, tho, don't they. Jonathan Jones, On 17/08/2012 21:19: > It shouldn't be difficult at in Lojban. {ii} is a diphthong > pronounced "YEE", {i} is a vowel pronounced "EE". ...and that's easy only for native anglophones, helped by the diphthongal character of "EE" in most accents. --And. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.