Received: from mail-pb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.160.61]:34005) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T2WCF-0004Kh-MC; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:43:23 -0700 Received: by pbbrp2 with SMTP id rp2sf2639468pbb.16 for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:43:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=op+cxpnPx7X24J4LbglmuBhx1wypWT/fXSGc1X7ul3A=; b=zadFbcs2fUbryaPNyeglpBBtbHvIdTEubNYtot7a9lwt5XIdEY7TZH0+y+XoDVDu1+ s1/SbNjReHvsHJ1j5VdBYmCeTcFxdLHrvgMJzqA1dIYE/09uQZarjMWcoLcD7BzX9M3X LfDFCc2CAAp4i5PqmawjhFOyOsC6CJgkWkP7I= Received: by 10.236.180.41 with SMTP id i29mr2359620yhm.4.1345246993172; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:43:13 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.126.33 with SMTP id a21ls10743206yhi.3.gmail; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.147.175 with SMTP id t35mr2333062yhj.17.1345246992723; Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:43:10 -0700 (PDT) From: sunderland To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <3ce5c3a7-5141-40c3-8826-2d29e3a5fbc9@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <5e10061c-cf69-45f8-b14b-fa8ebbad02ae@googlegroups.com> References: <44e6fb5c-91f3-47ba-817c-8560c9c6ca14@googlegroups.com> <502B9E61.8060808@gmx.de> <502BA634.3030007@gmx.de> <5e10061c-cf69-45f8-b14b-fa8ebbad02ae@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gatewaycat@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gatewaycat@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gatewaycat@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_699_25651893.1345246991343" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_699_25651893.1345246991343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To answer {do djica lonu citka ma} with "anything," I'd just say {roda},=20 which here means "for each x, I('d) want to eat x," not that "I want to eat= =20 the-mass-of everything" as in English (maybe I misunderstand {roda}?). But answering with a noun (any/where/thing) is sorta an Englishism. In=20 Chinese you'd probably use an adverb (=E9=9A=8F=E4=BE=BF/suibian). You coul= d answer {do=20 djica lonu citka ma} with an attitudinal. Maybe {se'inai} "other-oriented."= =20 Or maybe {ri .aucu'i} or {.aucu'i go'i lonu citka makau} "indifference." Or= =20 even {roda .a'u} "interest." On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:04:45 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote: > > > For me the issue is closed. > > Anyway, this is how I can define "any". > > *- What do you want to eat?* > *- Anything (=3D"every random selection would do")* > > If anybody doesn't like la selpa'i's (although he is beloved by default)= =20 > solution please post about it anytime anywhere anyhow. > (gosh, too much play on word) > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/DMhg3sGz-isJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_699_25651893.1345246991343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To answer {do djica lonu citka ma} with "anything," I'd just say {roda= }, which here means "for each x, I('d) want to eat x," not that "I wan= t to eat the-mass-of everything" as in English (maybe I misunderstand {roda= }?).

But answering with a noun (any/where/thi= ng) is sorta an Englishism. In Chinese you'd probably use an adverb (= =E9=9A=8F=E4=BE=BF/suibian). You could answer {do djica lonu citka ma} with= an attitudinal. Maybe {se'inai} "other-oriented." Or maybe {ri .aucu'i} or {.aucu'i g= o'i lonu citka makau} "indifference." Or even {roda .a'u} "interest."


On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:04:45 AM UTC-4, la gleki wro= te:

For me the issue is closed.

Anyway, this is how I= can define "any".

- What do you want to ea= t?
- Anything (=3D"every random selection would do")

If anybody doesn't like la selpa'i's (although he i= s beloved by default) solution please post about it anytime anywhere anyhow= .
(gosh, too much play on word)

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