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On 17 August 2012 19:43, sunderland <gatewaycat@gmail.com> wrote:

> To answer {do djica lonu citka ma} with "anything," I'd just say {roda},
> which here means "for each x, I('d) want to eat x," not that "I want to e=
at
> the-mass-of everything" as in English (maybe I misunderstand {roda}?).
>

.i ue do djica da'i lo nu citka lo su'u lo gerku cu batci lo mlatu

That problem with da is that its scope is the subject of much debate. Does
it really scope over *everything in the universe*. A sort of
contextually-relevant "any" might be interesting. Something like {da poi
co'e} maybe.

mu'o mi'e la tsani


>
> But answering with a noun (any/where/thing) is sorta an Englishism. In
> Chinese you'd probably use an adverb (=E9=9A=8F=E4=BE=BF/suibian). You co=
uld answer {do
> djica lonu citka ma} with an attitudinal. Maybe {se'inai}
> "other-oriented." Or maybe {ri .aucu'i} or {.aucu'i go'i lonu citka makau=
}"indifference." Or even
> {roda .a'u} "interest."
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:04:45 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:
>>
>>
>>  For me the issue is closed.
>>
>> Anyway, this is how I can define "any".
>>
>> *- What do you want to eat?*
>> *- Anything (=3D"every random selection would do")*
>>
>> If anybody doesn't like la selpa'i's (although he is beloved by default)
>> solution please post about it anytime anywhere anyhow.
>> (gosh, too much play on word)
>>
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On 17 August 2012 19:43, sunderland <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:gatewaycat@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gatewaycat@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span=
> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div>To answer {do djica lonu citka ma} with &quot;anything,&quot; I&#39;d =
just say {roda}, which here means=C2=A0&quot;for each x, I(&#39;d) want to =
eat x,&quot; not that &quot;I want to eat the-mass-of everything&quot; as i=
n English (maybe I misunderstand {roda}?).</div>

</blockquote><div><br></div><div>.i ue do djica da&#39;i lo nu citka lo su&=
#39;u lo gerku cu batci lo mlatu</div><div><br></div><div>That problem with=
 da is that its scope is the subject of much debate. Does it really scope o=
ver *everything in the universe*. A sort of contextually-relevant &quot;any=
&quot; might be interesting. Something like {da poi co&#39;e} maybe.</div>

<div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e la tsani</div><div>=C2=A0</div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc=
 solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div><div>But answering with a=C2=A0noun=
 (any/where/thing) is sorta an Englishism.=C2=A0In Chinese you&#39;d probab=
ly use an adverb (=E9=9A=8F=E4=BE=BF/suibian). You could answer {do djica l=
onu citka ma} with an attitudinal. Maybe=C2=A0<span style=3D"white-space:pr=
e-wrap">{se&#39;inai} &quot;other-oriented.&quot; Or maybe </span>{ri=C2=A0=
<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">.aucu&#39;i} or {.aucu&#39;i go&#39;i<=
/span>=C2=A0lonu citka makau}<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap"> &quot;in=
difference.&quot; Or even </span><span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">{</sp=
an>roda=C2=A0<span style=3D"white-space:pre-wrap">.a&#39;u</span>} &quot;in=
terest.&quot;</div>

<div class=3D"im"><div><br><div><br>On Wednesday, August 15, 2012 10:04:45 =
AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br></bloc=
kquote>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">

<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><tt></tt></div></blockquote><div>=
For me the issue is closed.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, this is how I =
can define &quot;any&quot;.<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>- What do you w=
ant to eat?</b></div>

<div><b>- Anything (=3D&quot;every random selection would do&quot;)</b></di=
v><div><br></div><div>If anybody doesn&#39;t like la selpa&#39;i&#39;s (alt=
hough he is beloved by default) solution please post about it anytime anywh=
ere anyhow.</div>

<div>(gosh, too much play on word)</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><b=
r></div></div></div>

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