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Am 18.08.2012 02:33, schrieb Pierre Abbat:
> You can't use BAI as a tense. It's a proper preposition; if you put it just
> before the selbri, it adds a place to the predicate and leaves it unfilled.
>
> A string of tense markers just before a selbri is grammatical:
> pu be'a sanli
> But a string of prepositions including BAI is not:
> *ca gau farvi
> *gau ca farvi
> ca farvi gau
> gau ku ca farvi
> *bai ta'i zbasu
> bai zbasu ta'i
This rule makes little sense and is an unnecessary restriction that 
shouldn't (and in my opinion doesn't) even exist. I don't know why you 
always mention "proper prepositions" and distinguish them from tenses. 
There is no difference between tenses and BAI, they all add places to 
the bridi, they all tag a sumti, they all can be used as selbri tcita, 
which is like filling them with zo'e.

Am 17.08.2012 23:21, schrieb sunderland:
> Somewhat relatedly, I was also wondering, are the following grammatical?
> 1.  {zu'a lo ckule [ku] cu zarci}
> 2.  {lo mu'i tavla}
>
> In other words, can {cu} separate the selbri from a modal phrase 
> (something other than leading sumti)? 1. is technically an observative 
> (I think) after all.

Observatives aren't really a thing anymore. You shouldn't treat bridi 
without an explicit x1 differently from others.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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