Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:39191) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T2l0X-00041u-At; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:32:22 -0700 Received: by yhoo21 with SMTP id o21sf5068409yho.16 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:32:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=k18HmJPetNYyPRKsxOx9pNf5ekyHz/AYWtXON1S9bqc=; b=KAa39SZlF8ly5fZTzb4UsH0YjI4l8PcZGyz7V3u0SLRDnKGfRHRuNicl/9C5a9pahd e+/Iv7TN127O5TBJOZcEzxc2UjOC1bhOJ5250GNm5LW2cBL1Z9NsrLY1/WinbJoYXHJM MaelYEV8zJx8SGb8GMnNoFWdnHqmjQzdONjpA= Received: by 10.68.211.6 with SMTP id my6mr1339197pbc.15.1345303926415; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:32:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.201.99 with SMTP id jz3ls4142745pbc.0.gmail; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.233.5 with SMTP id ts5mr1342728pbc.20.1345303925658; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 08:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <3c8e9a9a-2f9b-4c00-8052-ebe2605507c8@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <502E37FF.5000500@gmx.de> References: <23861931-0238-4ac4-a76e-60a8ea1b4d75@googlegroups.com> <502E37FF.5000500@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [lojban] {ko}, {xa'e}, {.e'u}, {e'o} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_294_32694111.1345303925357" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_294_32694111.1345303925357 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 {.e'u} and {ko} largely differ in the fact that after insubmission after {ko} you might be executed by your commander whereas after {.e'u} you would probably survive. zo'o On Friday, August 17, 2012 4:24:31 PM UTC+4, selpa'i wrote: > > Am 17.08.2012 13:47, schrieb Paul Predkiewicz: > > but {xa'e} is a rafsi of {xance}, how would you use it to say such > > things as "let's go"? > > -xa'e- is the rafsi, but xa'e as a cmavo is a LAhE (even though I wish > it was UI) that makes it so that the sumti it's used on is treated as if > it was ko, i.e. a third-person command. > > xa'e lo gerku cu cliva > "The dogs shall leave!" > "May the dogs leave!" > "I want the dogs to leave." > > Whether it's very useful is another question. {.e'u} will usually be > enough for cohortatives at least. > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > -- > pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/uwcGoYr3b0UJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_294_32694111.1345303925357 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {.e'u} and {ko} largely differ in the fact that after insubmission after {k= o} you might be executed by your commander whereas after {.e'u} you would p= robably survive. zo'o

On Friday, August 17, 2012 4:24:31 PM UTC+4, s= elpa'i wrote:
Am 17.08.2012 13:= 47, schrieb Paul Predkiewicz:
> but {xa'e} is a rafsi of {xance}, how would you use it to say such= =20
> things as "let's go"?

-xa'e- is the rafsi, but xa'e as a cmavo is a LAhE (even though I wish= =20
it was UI) that makes it so that the sumti it's used on is treated as i= f=20
it was ko, i.e. a third-person command.

     xa'e lo gerku cu cliva
     "The dogs shall leave!"
     "May the dogs leave!"
     "I want the dogs to leave."

Whether it's very useful is another question. {.e'u} will usually be=20
enough for cohortatives at least.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo

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