Received: from mail-ob0-f189.google.com ([209.85.214.189]:42951) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T2sIq-0002Mw-M8; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:45 -0700 Received: by obbun3 with SMTP id un3sf5201342obb.16 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bNlGpJEHZTgQ0IcNmwDhasyd2opZt+na6y6oNoQr9uY=; b=gqUflSgJLGz7lJ926gKRq++A7exjvzfLJ3sAby+sPwXDgk34HSZ4KBfIlQl5mjo25N nH1cZjSS9/jSm5WQOPmIAIWW+oN65p3K7BrZEU1ykEtxQX2TP6UuPKtrQzwCL7JEALbX 6W1IQLWeJexwnDr6+Lu2ZX2kgMqMCYz1XI1Cc= Received: by 10.68.190.65 with SMTP id go1mr31145pbc.6.1345331969763; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.201.168 with SMTP id kb8ls5240882pbc.2.gmail; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.83.40 with SMTP id n8mr1036367pay.42.1345331969032; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.83.40 with SMTP id n8mr1036366pay.42.1345331969018; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com (mail-pb0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vo7si1698424pbc.1.2012.08.18.16.19.29 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.160.47; Received: by pbcwy7 with SMTP id wy7so6033594pbc.6 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.201.234 with SMTP id kd10mr22962478pbc.141.1345331968416; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.213.67 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:19:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000e0cd5187e58762a04c77bb7d6@google.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:19:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: [lojban] Re: Zombie From: "Mike S." To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: maikxlx@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of maikxlx@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.47 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=maikxlx@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c408151bb604c792827f X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8ff1c408151bb604c792827f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mike S. wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> On , ".arpis." wrote: >>>> > Not all uses of "zombie" (in English) involve a controller; e.g. Left >>>> 4 Dead, Night of the Living Dead, Shawn of the Dead, etc. >>>> >>>> Yes, I've seen all those "BRAAAAIIINS" and green skin around but I >>>> would favour the original Voodoo myth :) >>>> >>>> >>>> > Also, I'd just like to note that I have difficulty pronouncing the >>>> terminal {ii} to be distinct from {i}. >>>> >>>> We have a similar problem in Italian with "principii" (principles) and >>>> "principi" (princes). With some exercise they come out very distinct. >>> >>> >>> It shouldn't be difficult at in Lojban. {ii} is a diphthong pronounced >>> "YEE", {i} is a vowel pronounced "EE". >>> >> >> What would be your take on fu'ivla containing {dii}? > > > The same as my take on all fu'ivla: I don't like it. > > You'll have to be more specific if you want a better answer. > Do you notice any difficulties with {dii}? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --e89a8ff1c408151bb604c792827f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jonatha= n Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, = Aug 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mike S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan J= ones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, <rdenta= to@gmail.com> wrote:
On , ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
>= ; Not all uses of "zombie" (in English) involve a controller; e.g= . Left 4 Dead, Night of the Living Dead, Shawn of the Dead, etc.

Yes, I've seen all those "BRAAAAIIINS" and green sk= in around but I would favour the original Voodoo myth :)


> = Also, I'd just like to note that I have difficulty pronouncing the term= inal {ii} to be distinct from {i}.

We have a similar problem in Italian with "principii" (= principles) and "principi" (princes). With some exercise they com= e out very distinct.

It shouldn't be difficult at in Lojban. {ii= } is a diphthong pronounced "YEE", {i} is a vowel pronounced &quo= t;EE".

What would be your take on = fu'ivla containing {dii}?

The same as= my take on all fu'ivla: I don't like it.

You'll have to= be more specific if you want a better answer.

Do you notice any difficulties with {dii}?

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