Received: from mail-wi0-f189.google.com ([209.85.212.189]:40930) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T2sdy-0002km-4O; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:30 -0700 Received: by wibhr14 with SMTP id hr14sf1030654wib.16 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=gtub6bTAhzSr8idC5BGY3j/22I+olSKVrfw5ahGc4xI=; b=UZu4a/BD9TkU47hmZUF0hwFePqNCyofBAOUaoJxJTqjuRKEuqHDtDXtNtA016gAx3H s3zTXY363oqLOmM1crRPhWd8Yiez7DjEYElgh60O9B7x2wCo+gZXNxg0Mnlqk/gp1vYk huaGZtYcysp47BevZJaxs+2cpwLxwhWVhZNh0= Received: by 10.204.156.78 with SMTP id v14mr387479bkw.22.1345333277941; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.204.4.74 with SMTP id 10ls3653573bkq.0.gmail; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.76 with SMTP id n12mr909077bkw.1.1345333276986; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.154.76 with SMTP id n12mr909076bkw.1.1345333276886; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7si2719304bks.2.2012.08.18.16.41.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.215.42; Received: by lahl5 with SMTP id l5so2181451lah.15 for ; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.102.238 with SMTP id fr14mr9281543lab.8.1345333276430; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.24.70 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Aug 2012 16:41:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <000e0cd5187e58762a04c77bb7d6@google.com> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 17:41:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: [lojban] Re: Zombie From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04083c930bd17b04c792d041 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04083c930bd17b04c792d041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Mike S. wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mike S. wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, wrote: >>>> >>>>> On , ".arpis." wrote: >>>>> > Not all uses of "zombie" (in English) involve a controller; e.g. >>>>> Left 4 Dead, Night of the Living Dead, Shawn of the Dead, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I've seen all those "BRAAAAIIINS" and green skin around but I >>>>> would favour the original Voodoo myth :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Also, I'd just like to note that I have difficulty pronouncing the >>>>> terminal {ii} to be distinct from {i}. >>>>> >>>>> We have a similar problem in Italian with "principii" (principles) and >>>>> "principi" (princes). With some exercise they come out very distinct. >>>> >>>> >>>> It shouldn't be difficult at in Lojban. {ii} is a diphthong pronounced >>>> "YEE", {i} is a vowel pronounced "EE". >>>> >>> >>> What would be your take on fu'ivla containing {dii}? >> >> >> The same as my take on all fu'ivla: I don't like it. >> >> You'll have to be more specific if you want a better answer. >> > > Do you notice any difficulties with {dii}? > No. Should I? -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. --f46d04083c930bd17b04c792d041 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Mike S. <maikx= lx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 6:34 P= M, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Mike = S. <maikxlx@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan J= ones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:07 PM, <rdenta= to@gmail.com> wrote:
On , ".arpis." <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com> wrote:
>= ; Not all uses of "zombie" (in English) involve a controller; e.g= . Left 4 Dead, Night of the Living Dead, Shawn of the Dead, etc.

Yes, I've seen all those "BRAAAAIIINS" and green sk= in around but I would favour the original Voodoo myth :)


> = Also, I'd just like to note that I have difficulty pronouncing the term= inal {ii} to be distinct from {i}.

We have a similar problem in Italian with "principii" (= principles) and "principi" (princes). With some exercise they com= e out very distinct.

It shouldn't be difficult at in Lojban. {ii= } is a diphthong pronounced "YEE", {i} is a vowel pronounced &quo= t;EE".

What would be your take on = fu'ivla containing {dii}?

The same as= my take on all fu'ivla: I don't like it.

You'll have to= be more specific if you want a better answer.

Do you notice any difficulties with {dii}?

No. Should I?

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