Received: from mail-yx0-f189.google.com ([209.85.213.189]:53855) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T2zjT-00007z-Bd; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:15:46 -0700 Received: by yenq11 with SMTP id q11sf5462134yen.16 for ; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:15:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=beta; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=NW6LViX7SGEK3bCLcjDXYHR39sX8xemfKR53Zm48VFo=; b=v2hSz10rwgWrDVHjQHY69cfYFkcyFov/+2SP7SVIvXUuAdPtN9bQCoOOMAQbl57LLz Hk7fK7OESNmSZ/0shThT/sk3ut+jqbIFzyYoKLnpiKt0DhKNmtQ2c2xxum61GNU/HLKI lcxOUENQI2U2MxGDIoKnvLY+rORwNICrn63K0= Received: by 10.68.232.230 with SMTP id tr6mr1453203pbc.16.1345360527668; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:15:27 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.68.211.228 with SMTP id nf4ls5756073pbc.4.gmail; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.190.65 with SMTP id go1mr77624pbc.6.1345360527121; Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 00:15:26 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <8591e593-a739-4963-84f6-2d515fdc622e@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <45de19f2-9208-45c6-83cf-8d9ea7779295@googlegroups.com> References: <44e6fb5c-91f3-47ba-817c-8560c9c6ca14@googlegroups.com> <502B9E61.8060808@gmx.de> <502BA634.3030007@gmx.de> <5e10061c-cf69-45f8-b14b-fa8ebbad02ae@googlegroups.com> <3ce5c3a7-5141-40c3-8826-2d29e3a5fbc9@googlegroups.com> <45de19f2-9208-45c6-83cf-8d9ea7779295@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3_32280985.1345360526610" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_3_32280985.1345360526610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:47:41 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote: > > Well, long ago a new cmavo wasproposed, {xe'e}. And here are the links. Hopefully, we can find a solution soon. {xe'e}=3D"any" https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/FnytvREKa60/discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/ZXJI593tZ18/discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/rK3uXlKKLVM/discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/aWGbUt_SQiQ/discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/MDmCtOYCNuA/discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/Rvelhp1uNtU/discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/yBtCzxJGhSg/discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/T7G_fA0ZcKI/discussion Mention: https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/V-YN3GLx4BM/discussion https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/SiONr-NXBwY/discussion=20 > > On Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:05:10 PM UTC+4, tijlan wrote: >> >> On 18 August 2012 00:43, sunderland wrote:=20 >> > But answering with a noun (any/where/thing) is sorta an Englishism. In= =20 >> > Chinese you'd probably use an adverb (=E9=9A=8F=E4=BE=BF/suibian). You= could answer {do=20 >> > djica lonu citka ma} with an attitudinal. Maybe {se'inai}=20 >> "other-oriented."=20 >> > Or maybe {ri .aucu'i} or {.aucu'i go'i lonu citka makau}=20 >> "indifference." Or=20 >> > even {roda .a'u} "interest."=20 >> >> I would consider {.e'inai} as well:=20 >> >> A: do djica lo nu citka ma=20 >> What do you want to eat?=20 >> >> B: zo'e .e'inai=20 >> Something [resistance against constraint]. --> Anything.=20 >> >> >> mu'o=20 >> > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lo= jban/-/-KwYntxE95QJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. ------=_Part_3_32280985.1345360526610 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sunday, August 19, 2012 8:47:41 AM UTC+4, la gleki wrote:Well, long ago a new cmavo was proposed, {xe'e}.
And here are the links.= Hopefully, we can find a solution soon.
{xe'e}=3D"any"
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/FnytvREKa60/discussion
= https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/ZXJI593tZ18/discussion
h= ttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/rK3uXlKKLVM/discussion
ht= tps://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/aWGbUt_SQiQ/discussion
htt= ps://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/MDmCtOYCNuA/discussion
http= s://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/Rvelhp1uNtU/discussion
https= ://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/yBtCzxJGhSg/discussion
https:= //groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/T7G_fA0ZcKI/discussion

Mention:
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/V-YN3GL= x4BM/discussion
https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/SiONr-NX= BwY/discussion 

On Saturday, August 18, 2012 2:05:10 PM UTC+4, tijlan wrote:On 18 August 2012 00:43, sunderland <ga= tew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> But answering with a noun (any/where/thing) is sorta an Englishism= . In
> Chinese you'd probably use an adverb (=E9=9A=8F=E4=BE=BF/suibian).= You could answer {do
> djica lonu citka ma} with an attitudinal. Maybe {se'inai} "other-o= riented."
> Or maybe {ri .aucu'i} or {.aucu'i go'i lonu citka makau} "indiffer= ence." Or
> even {roda .a'u} "interest."

I would consider {.e'inai} as well:

A: do djica lo nu citka ma
What do you want to eat?

B: zo'e .e'inai
Something [resistance against constraint]. --> Anything.


mu'o

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