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On 19 August 2012 04:36, brendyn <brendan.tildesley@gmail.com> wrote:

> {mi nelci lo se binxo se cusku} Is the best I've come up with. The binxo
> seems only metaphorically correct, but I suppose since tanru are metaphors,
> it might be ok (ju'ocu'i). I opted out of tenses because they don't seem
> appropriate here. Any ideas?
>
>
{se binxo se cusku} can mean pretty much whatever you like, given its tanru
nature, as long as the basic claim of se cusku holds.

Assuming the practical definition of binxo [x1 becomes x2 (concrete) under
conditions x3], {.i mi nelci lo se binxo be lo se cusku} expands into {.i
mi nelci zo'e noi zo'e noi cusku ke'a ku'o binxo ke'a}. That's very
strange, because the things said by someone don't change at all. You say
them, and that's it. Therefore, it's odd to talk about {lo se binxo be lo
se cusku}. {.i mi nelci lo du'u baku da'i do makau cusku} is maybe a more
exact translation of the meaning.

mu'o mi'e la tsani


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On 19 August 2012 04:36, brendyn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:br=
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>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
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{mi nelci lo se binxo se cusku} Is the best I&#39;ve come up with. The binx=
o seems only metaphorically correct, but I suppose since tanru are metaphor=
s, it might be ok (ju&#39;ocu&#39;i). I opted out of tenses because they do=
n&#39;t seem appropriate here. Any ideas?<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=
=3D"#888888"><br>



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</font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>{se binxo se cusku} can mean=
 pretty much whatever you like, given its tanru nature, as long as the basi=
c claim of se cusku holds.</div><div><br></div><div>Assuming the practical =
definition of binxo [x1 becomes x2 (concrete) under conditions x3], {.i mi =
nelci lo se binxo be lo se cusku} expands into {.i mi nelci zo&#39;e noi zo=
&#39;e noi cusku ke&#39;a ku&#39;o binxo ke&#39;a}. That&#39;s very strange=
, because the things said by someone don&#39;t change at all. You say them,=
 and that&#39;s it. Therefore, it&#39;s odd to talk about {lo se binxo be l=
o se cusku}. {.i mi nelci lo du&#39;u baku da&#39;i do makau cusku} is mayb=
e a more exact translation of the meaning.=A0</div>

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