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We are probably screwing some things up, but this is not obviously one of t=
hem.=A0 I need to go to the store if the store is the relevant place to get=
 what I need.=A0 I am mnot necessarily obliged to go to the store, even if =
it has what I need for some project, unless I am obliged to finish the proj=
ect -- or unless you take "obliged" in a practical sense.=A0 {bliga} has si=
milar problems, aside from the issue of to whom you are obliged and by what=
 fiat.=20



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Subject: Re: [lojban] Cowan's summary: opacity and sumti-raising
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While we're putting this to the record, I would like to point out to all of=
 you Anglophones that it seems very much like you're misusing {nitcu} where=
 {bilga} would be far more appropriate, i.e. "I need to go to the store.". =
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>We are pro=
bably screwing some things up, but this is not obviously one of them.&nbsp;=
 I need to go to the store if the store is the relevant place to get what I=
 need.&nbsp; I am mnot necessarily obliged to go to the store, even if it h=
as what I need for some project, unless I am obliged to finish the project =
-- or unless you take "obliged" in a practical sense.&nbsp; {bliga} has sim=
ilar problems, aside from the issue of to whom you are obliged and by what =
fiat. <br></span></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: times ne=
w roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-fami=
ly: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D=
"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <hr size=3D"1">  <b><span style=3D"=
font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> la .lindar. &lt;lindarthebard@gmail.com=
&gt;<br>
 <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> lojban@googlegroups.c=
om <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, Augu=
st 20, 2012 7:42 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</spa=
n></b> Re: [lojban] Cowan's summary: opacity and sumti-raising<br> </font> =
</div> <br>
<div id=3D"yiv1470481514">While we're putting this to the record, I would l=
ike to point out to all of you Anglophones that it seems very much like you=
're misusing {nitcu} where {bilga} would be far more appropriate, i.e. "I n=
eed to go to the store.".



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