Received: from mail-gg0-f189.google.com ([209.85.161.189]:53709) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T48Sw-0005X2-Iw; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:29 -0700 Received: by ggcs5 with SMTP id s5sf758876ggc.16 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=R8zTI0ikm1Q+KR37SAJEowEXhoOmIG/8dTL7ccUP8e8=; b=dHnrWUowdbrCc+4wwLXJyDUeB+rREhUmDccAA3BbjcANDR7yiirLbq1kigPC8d9osu VjwEAsHmhCR/KQTPmwbOuXVnVOaHsyEF7p818OKh4yU8TTcZRESyPMw8SPn5IesXccSB FVCpRYsYxbE1QShvkqxouXLArD8+zhymN70QXeK5Wgt1R9mcUHSCAn8qdInWASxU+vos BCbncheYlxcCjqzasrKSITxXd6p1PXVhVH+euykUfvc0Gx8Y4WZeyEteeAqvNCx0JyQv bine5RFZDGLcHaYqxbBaQcUeQPnQq3r34WnxgkQPZ69HUTwRiGaU4EbOFLer4NqCPSUn NhEw== Received: by 10.52.90.69 with SMTP id bu5mr1052987vdb.6.1345632427435; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:07 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.223.69 with SMTP id ij5ls1151233vcb.6.gmail; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.117.41 with SMTP id kb9mr5849736veb.27.1345632426624; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.117.41 with SMTP id kb9mr5849735veb.27.1345632426602; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ef10si646104vdb.3.2012.08.22.03.47.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.182 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.182; Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id gb22so888574vcb.41 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.75.36 with SMTP id z4mr13577303vdv.52.1345632426314; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:47:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.95.234 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:46:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <703C97FD-47FD-4B19-9FC9-361B1C90EC68@gmail.com> References: <703C97FD-47FD-4B19-9FC9-361B1C90EC68@gmail.com> From: Jacob Errington Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 06:46:46 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] a minecraft proposal To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.182 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec5016057c4ca4e04c7d876a6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --bcaec5016057c4ca4e04c7d876a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds great. I'd love to play! You're right, however, we need some sort of wiki/glossary (maybe just a bunch of pages of the regular lojban.org wiki) because there's quite a bit of terminology (anyone know how to say "pickaxe" in lojban? I'd cheat and make up a zi'evla or something). .i mi'e la tsani mu'o On 22 August 2012 02:20, Sebastian wrote: > > > Vidarebefordrat brev: > > *Fr=E5n:* Sebastian > *Datum:* 22 augusti 2012 08:14:41 CEST > *Till:* "lojban@googlegroups.com" > *=C4mne:* *Re: [lojban] a minecraft proposal* > > coi, > I've never played Minecraft before, but it seems like a nice activity. I > could probably spend a few hours each weekend playing the game. Can you > simulate a real community in game, so you can organize work, economy, > distribution of resources and services democratic processes, etc? That > would be nice! > > > > Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone > > 22 aug 2012 kl. 06:46 skrev vitci'i : > > On 08/21/2012 09:28 PM, Jonathan Strickland wrote: > > Minecraft is by far the most social game I've played, and I feel the lojb= an > > community could get a lot out of it if we started taking advantage of it > > again. I propose a once-a-month minecraft server that goes up for a week > > (probably starting friday night) where players can work together while > > speaking only lojban and try to beat the game. > > > Minecraft has come quite a long way since the old server was up, and I > > think hosting a server once a month, with a new map each month, would > > encourage people to work together, speak and learn lojban, and grow close= r > > as a community while having fun. There's lots of things to do, regardless > > of how you like to play. Collecting resources, farming, writing books, > > fighting monsters, and building is the closest to lojbanistan we can get > > right now :) > > > One of the problems with the old server was that people would join, build > > things, and then not come back as often until they stopped coming back at > > all. When a server gets to be large and there isn't that much to do besid= es > > sustain what there already is, it's not as interesting. I think starting = a > > new map each month would give people the opportunity to feel involved fro= m > > the beginning, and keep people from being intimidated by having to learn > > everything that's already been done and built. I enjoy minecraft the most > > when starting out in a new world and working with others, starting equall= y > > naked and helpless, and I know a lot of other people do as well. > > > I think a few hours a week would work better to encourage people to be > > on simultaneously with each other. Perhaps the server could go up at > > noon Friday and go down at midnight Sunday/Monday. > > > I like your proposal for getting newbies engaged. but I also think it > > would be nice to have something persistent, so that we can (as you say) > > build lojbanistan. Perhaps there could be a persistent and a > > nonpersistent world, and the wipes temporarily made the persistent world > > inaccessible until we accomplished something appropriately difficult, > > such as sacrificing a stack of diamonds at the Altar of the Wrathful Op. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --bcaec5016057c4ca4e04c7d876a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds great. I'd love to play!
You're right, however, we need = some sort of wiki/glossary (maybe just a bunch of pages of the regular lojban.org wiki) because there's quite a = bit of terminology (anyone know how to say "pickaxe" in lojban? I= 'd cheat and make up a zi'evla or something).

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

On 22 August 2012 02:20, Sebastian <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com> wrote:


Vidarebefordrat brev:

F= r=E5n: Sebastian <so.cool.ogi@gmail.com>
Datum: 22 augusti 2012 08:14:41 CEST
Till: "lojban@googlegroups.c= om" <lojban@googlegroups.com>
=C4mne: Re: [lojban] a minecraft proposal

coi,
I've never played Minecraft before, but it seems like a nice activity.= I could probably spend a few hours each weekend playing the game. Can you = simulate a real community in game, so you can organize work, economy, distr= ibution of resources and services democratic processes, etc? That would be = nice!


Skickat fr=E5n min iPhone

22 aug 2012 kl. 06:46 skrev vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com>:=

On 08/21/2012 09:28 PM, Jo= nathan Strickland wrote:
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">Minecraft is by far the most social game I&#= 39;ve played, and I feel the lojban
community could get a lot out of it if we started taking advantage= of it
again. I propose a once-a-month minecraft server that goes up for a w= eek
(probably starting friday night) where players can w= ork together while
speaking only lojban and try to beat the game.
=
Minecraft has come quite a long way since the old server was up, a= nd I
think hosting a server once a month, with a new map each month, would=
encourage people to work together, speak and learn lojb= an, and grow closer
as a community while having fun. There's lots of things to do,= regardless
<= blockquote type=3D"cite"> of how you like to play. Collecting resources, farming, writing books= ,
fighting monsters, and building is the closest to lojb= anistan we can get
right now :)

One of the problems with the old server was= that people would join, build
things, and then not come= back as often until they stopped coming back at
all. When a server gets to be large and there isn't that much = to do besides
sustain what there already is, it's not as interesting. I think s= tarting a
new map each month would give people the oppor= tunity to feel involved from
the beginning, and keep people from being intimidated by having to= learn
everything that's already been done and built. I enjoy minecraft = the most
when starting out in a new world and working wi= th others, starting equally
naked and helpless, and I know a lot of other people do as well.
<= br>
I think a few hours a week wou= ld work better to encourage people to be
on simultaneously with each other. Perhaps the server = could go up at
noon Friday and go down at mid= night Sunday/Monday.

I like your propos= al for getting newbies engaged. but I also think it
would be nice to have somethin= g persistent, so that we can (as you say)
build lojbanistan. Perhaps there could be a persisten= t and a
nonpersistent world, and the w= ipes temporarily made the persistent world
inaccessible until we accomplished something appropr= iately difficult,
such as sacrificing a stack of= diamonds at the Altar of the Wrathful Op.

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