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la gleki, On 20/08/2012 09:53:

> On Thursday, August 16, 2012 5:46:19 AM UTC+4, And Rosta wrote:
>     So "mi citka ma kau" would mean not "I eat anything" but rather "I ea=
t whatever it is that I eat" -- because "do djuno lo du'u mi citka ma kau" =
means "Whatever it is that I eat, you know know that I eat it" =3D "You kno=
w what I eat".
>
>     That makes "mi citka ma kau" still possibly useful, but doesn't give =
us a way to say "I eat anything". For that, I suggest "ro da su'o mu'ei ku =
mi citka da", "ro da ka'e ku mi citka da", "I could eat anything", or else =
"ro da ro mu'ei ku mi citka da", "I would eat anything".
>
> Two questions.
> 1. Don't you think that it can mean "for each specific x in a
> possible world it's possible/necessary that I will eat it".

It means "For each x, it is the case that in all/some circumstances/eventua=
lities I will/would/can/could eat it". Which is what "I will/would/can/coul=
d eat anything means", no?

> 2. Even if I'm wrong then {any} in this example must mean not
> choosing any specific object.

I don't understand...


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