Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:54864) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T4ufo-0005ha-TH; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:15:53 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf1989684vbz.16 for ; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:15:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LEdqrSsCtmewyH9RcidJ4KSPVAbZqUGInxlWpOgbKSY=; b=j2T8mQcK+mDOmVSiqia/q9amHMZCxpTa2M+2Ij4wXsAaaMPxk3o9A6SSOaKFOwHdsA QPeufU8VoonaSx7gdklysPSK3unsgp5xEJykgbrRHnUbaERAngQ8YGRZiEiRU/uIYz/Y lf+PJ2uV0OJP6ABt+udCsAjq+ZhaeULRomp+g4AJPxKePpxc1hCl20z12T/pMzqsP7Vs dE5mjA+/fZ5Clo74aKC5iHA2JhjYv3ryXjHY9XchIGv+E1CPsz918tSKdpFVDhNV10rb xx/Bw73Kj/7F2p7msRi4pkOa5gRot+DqLwEBva5xvX930M+COwRFPxPATrpqXl/ZFDE2 bbFw== Received: by 10.236.74.161 with SMTP id x21mr356903yhd.13.1345817738099; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:15:38 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.236.120.244 with SMTP id p80ls1926519yhh.0.gmail; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.236.192.164 with SMTP id i24mr350737yhn.14.1345817737142; Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:15:35 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <34c8db6a-3ddd-48cb-b36c-2748ed06d72d@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <44e6fb5c-91f3-47ba-817c-8560c9c6ca14@googlegroups.com> <502B9E61.8060808@gmx.de> <502BA634.3030007@gmx.de> <502C50EB.3090704@gmail.com> <7e604d79-8ecd-4690-bc39-bf48b601d46f@googlegroups.com> <5036D423.5050101@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: ls.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates internal as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_179_29935313.1345817735143" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_179_29935313.1345817735143 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Friday, August 24, 2012 4:42:37 PM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote: > > CLEARLY we must invent a new gismu for this! > I propose {bleni} because "Blah!" for how you react to this suggestion, > and then it also sounds like "any". > > On a more serious note, I think a clear-cut PA would be very handy. > - Give me an apple? - Which one? There are several in this basket. - Any. I want to eat. I think logic can't define the difference between "one of..." and "any". There for {xe'e} in PA would be strange. What are your objections against {su'a}? {da} - some apple in the basket. {da su'a} - any apple in the basket. {da su'anai} - some specific apple in the basket (e.g. the yellow one). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lojban/-/raKKVPTaHFoJ. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. ------=_Part_179_29935313.1345817735143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Friday, August 24, 2012 4:42:37 PM UTC+4, la .lindar. wrote:CLEARLY we must invent a new gismu= for this!
I propose {bleni} because "Blah!" for how you react to this = suggestion, and then it also sounds like "any".

On= a more serious note, I think a clear-cut PA would be very handy.
- Give me an apple?
- Which one? There are several = in this basket.
- Any. I want to eat.

I think logic can't define = the difference between "one of..." and "any". There for {xe'e} in PA would = be strange.
What are your objections against {su'a}?

{da} - some = apple in the basket.
{da su'a} - any apple in the basket.
{da su'anai= } - some specific apple in the basket (e.g. the yellow one).

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