Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:54008) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T5GLt-0006cS-Sd; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:24:47 -0700 Received: by eaan13 with SMTP id n13sf870754eaa.16 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:24:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=h9I3DMSEV9cWzkSqJ/2Wdf9HGfDbBRp0Uo9AVaFlQ/g=; b=rJct9q65m8T032LeEvNqjfvv+tjb7xG3StE40FMHyLNXjsaBLBxzK8flozZeZ3CZZg mhodmrAK5l49NIzVfzo+agjm1yb16nlJJyJrbpr2zrRqKYUPOyrj/t4yQ/0tw8gk2B1h OYjswOQ07AlyAiYVyYEXeDNbkvHqbFSLqTy2NLEp0SpyrrDilS7kUCP84D8Z5P02slPZ D0Gs+QgMOwpjG5Ax+DMOAUp/kRTAeeOBe7lLbocCxoucNuqA0Lr8cvTFf3Afw3R1MNjh oLexQBWbFNi4rZxZnL2oGqHloKfjwhaJRI/WuSvRwyHZpTuMOKvjRykPZBiD5YONoEvd RRXA== Received: by 10.216.237.100 with SMTP id x78mr214522weq.59.1345901069793; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:24:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.206.198 with SMTP id l48ls2628356weo.3.gmail; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.0.67 with SMTP id 45mr464725wea.4.1345901068915; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.0.67 with SMTP id 45mr464724wea.4.1345901068886; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa8si355821wid.1.2012.08.25.06.24.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 25 Aug 2012 06:24:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dba81e1.pool.mediaWays.net [77.186.129.225]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 48FF9860FA1 for ; Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:24:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 15:24:28 +0200 From: v4hn To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro} Message-ID: <20120825132428.GB25027@samsa> References: <44e6fb5c-91f3-47ba-817c-8560c9c6ca14@googlegroups.com> <502B9E61.8060808@gmx.de> <502BA634.3030007@gmx.de> <502C50EB.3090704@gmail.com> <7e604d79-8ecd-4690-bc39-bf48b601d46f@googlegroups.com> <5036D423.5050101@gmail.com> <34c8db6a-3ddd-48cb-b36c-2748ed06d72d@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <34c8db6a-3ddd-48cb-b36c-2748ed06d72d@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 07:15:35AM -0700, la gleki wrote: > I think logic can't define the difference between "one of..." and "any".= =20 > There for {xe'e} in PA would be strange. > What are your objections against {su'a}? >=20 > {da} - some apple in the basket. > {da su'a} - any apple in the basket. > {da su'anai} - some specific apple in the basket (e.g. the yellow one). =2Ei mi mutce nelci di'u =2Ei xu di'u drani loka fanva kei fo rodo mu'o mi'e la .van. --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlA40gsACgkQMBKLZs4+wjy7lQCguBeVczINJEe5c1yAFOiyiQ3O +KsAoIKnPb52Snyo2RjsdymTxJiAWwh5 =YETV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DKU6Jbt7q3WqK7+M--