Received: from mail-ey0-f189.google.com ([209.85.215.189]:62566) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T5eCB-0000cR-1d; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:52:18 -0700 Received: by eaan13 with SMTP id n13sf1172499eaa.16 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:52:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id :date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=QwepJFOQmP/XI/MLR51HmjVf7V337L9AZYUuBJSiQf8=; b=KGZYCgIDX9xgqZOm+MubaWtnKBY10EKRT6AJ/yQYfCNZrCuHQauHytN3NeHs3rLD+S QV2QYtysHwjr6cOafdNttVpmDRjZxKddIBkEBWPrObIoVSZF1Wa4tu5yyG1rJjb3mnYH DMV31BPx+2NLiZ0d06AEylJYrZ+esYWNkDJFS4f474m0wvHa7rVFr6gsy0SV7tixEHnI v+twgRQUGfjSiJhr4s4JYWUC33xjSrdBH2HSt3yPRoG+i+pNk15gr4CwDoTQWSOIB8fr M9L8OivbaJpT37anyez8ZuVQlF1DJsFljOoesvZkIkkKpPuc8Mx3kvZW0O4iXtAkuxTs vhMg== Received: by 10.180.96.65 with SMTP id dq1mr821120wib.2.1345992722794; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:52:02 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.216.228.99 with SMTP id e77ls3253205weq.9.gmail; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.181.11.234 with SMTP id el10mr1268167wid.2.1345992722080; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.181.11.234 with SMTP id el10mr1268165wid.2.1345992722071; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net. [213.165.64.23]) by gmr-mx.google.com with SMTP id em7si1021287wib.2.2012.08.26.07.52.01; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 07:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) client-ip=213.165.64.23; Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 26 Aug 2012 14:52:01 -0000 Received: from p57A09546.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.1.33]) [87.160.149.70] by mail.gmx.net (mp027) with SMTP; 26 Aug 2012 16:52:01 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+n5VhA5EenAYjM+S6s++oNiMdWJ3FOS1sTCvmt19 MBjP4aBtr9XX/Z Message-ID: <503A380E.8030406@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:51:58 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] quantifier with "la" References: <201208261026.55969.phma@phma.optus.nu> In-Reply-To: <201208261026.55969.phma@phma.optus.nu> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 213.165.64.23 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / Am 26.08.2012 16:26, schrieb Pierre Abbat: > "la so pintupi cu bevri lo kanguru": Does this mean that all nine individually > carried kangaroos? The inner quantifier is part of the name, so it means "The Nine Pintupi", but it doesn't tell us how many there are. They could carry them individually, but we don't know. You can force distributivity with an outer quantifier: "ro la so pintupi". To make it explicitly collective, you could say "lu'o la so pintupi". In both cases, we don't know how many pintupi there are. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- pilno zo le xu .i lo dei bangu cu se cmene zo lojbo .e nai zo lejbo ^:i \jl /flr sen |ziu \su xn go kror ^:i \sym tfn /zu viw \xn jy ^jaiw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en.