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[173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vo7si7096996pbc.1.2012.08.26.16.47.57 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from nobody by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T5mYe-0004TY-AY for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:47:56 -0700 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([75.180.132.120]:26686) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T5mYc-0004TI-DN for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 16:47:55 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=jC4AwFRxCpLG2c4z51i9qw==:17 a=xv0-aasytmwA:10 a=vLoBTkneVYEA:10 a=83Vblwnw_7QA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=izeJ5qvZ8vUA:10 a=SYs3KUdoa0W98XaxZz8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=jC4AwFRxCpLG2c4z51i9qw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 69.132.101.103 Received: from [69.132.101.103] ([69.132.101.103:58560] helo=chausie) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BD/52-28917-3A5BA305; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 23:47:47 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chausie (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB91A2770 for ; Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:47:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: Re: [lojban] carna, my turn. Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2012 19:47:46 -0400 Message-ID: <1400121.QSQPpNqLPc@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.4 (Linux/3.2.0-29-generic; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20120826203514.GV10684@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20120826203514.GV10684@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Original-Sender: phma@phma.optus.nu X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 173.13.139.236 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@phma.optus.nu) smtp.mail=phma@phma.optus.nu Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday, August 26, 2012 13:35:14 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > And here's the actual definition plus notes/tutorial. This really > is *fundamentally* complex, as we've discovered in this discussion. > My previous version, which relied on the right hand rule, was very > easy to define, but led to *horrendous* sentences that were > extremely counter-intuitive. In this version, I've sacrificed some > initial learning curve for very easy use once you get used to it. > > x1 turns about vector x2 towards direction x3, turning angular > distance / to face point x4 Suppose that x1 is an object with a natural axis of rotation, but no natural top or front, such as an axle with a wheel on each end (which I'll call "lo relxiljendu"). What does "lo relxiljendu cu carna ri lo pritu" mean? Pierre -- Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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