Sorry about lack of p= atience with metathesis, just not enough context to start a good guess.&nbs= p; {tu'a} not immediately in the object place of {djicua}, etc., was just a= shock (I don't get out much).

From: = .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 8:06 PM
<= span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" an= d {ro}

I'm not dyslexic, but lojban sometimes makes me f= eel like I am; I meant to say {nabypalne}, which is glossed as sandwich amo= ng other things.

The {tu'a} and using {citka} in a tanru are idiosyn= cratic and probably not necessary in a more carefully constructed sentence.=

On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 12:12 P= M, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:

Relying on pragmatics is best when the semantics is sound, whi= ch is not clear here. I can't parse {nabyplane} off hand, so I'll ski= p that and also the awkwardness of having both {tu'a} and the elided predic= ate {citka} present. The scope of {ma} is problematic: is it this wor= ld, where, admittedly, the answer presumably lies, or the world of {lo nu d= o citka}, where the language places it? Happily, the answer is a this= -worldly {da}, which covers the difference smoothly (the event world presum= ably in these cases includes the relevant portions of the actual world and,= perhaps, then some).

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From: .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail= .com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 25,= 2012 10:14 PM

Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro}

I wonder if we can rely on pragmatics...

{tu'a ma poi nabyplane= do citka se djica}
{.i da}

We do have which, I think: {ma poi}
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 10:25 PM, la .lindar. = <lindarthebard@gmail.com= > wrote:

To play devil's advocate, I think an unquantified sumti is pretty= much what we want.

However, we don't have "which", so w= e don't really have "any".

"Which sandwich do you want?"

= "Any sandwhich is fine."

In Lojban I wouldn't say = it that way.

{.i ko cuxna fi loi snuji} or summat.=

Whatever... I'm out of opinions/suggestions.
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