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Clifford" X-Apple-Yahoo-Replied-Msgid: 2_0_0_48_16063170_ABzdi2IAAPvVUDr44gir5Sv4NnU Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro} Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:16:42 -0500 To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: kali9putra@yahoo.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: best guess record for domain of kali9putra@yahoo.com designates 98.139.91.87 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=kali9putra@yahoo.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@yahoo.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-550101228 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --Apple-Mail-1-550101228 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 WTF? Whence all this possible worlds talk in a simple imperative? ko dunda ci da poi ge plise gi se lanka ta Sent from my iPad On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:34 PM, la gleki wrote: > > > On Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:58:19 PM UTC+4, And Rosta wrote: > la gleki, On 25/08/2012 15:23: > > OK. Please translate > > > > "I could eat some specific apple from that basket, namely the yellow (all the others are red)" > > "mi su'o mu'ei citka le plise je se lanka be ta" > > > "I could eat any apple from that basket". > > "ro da poi ge plise gi se lanka ta zo'u mi su'o mu'ei citka da" > > > 1. So "Give me any three apples from the basket!" would be {ro da poi plise zo'u ko su'omu'ei dunda ci da}? So in every possible world I'm asking for three {da}? > 2. 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WTF?  Whence all this possible wo= rlds talk in a simple imperative? ko dunda ci da poi ge plise gi se lanka t= a

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On Aug 26, 2012, at 11:34 PM, la g= leki <gleki.is.my.name@gma= il.com> wrote:



On Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:58:19 PM UTC+4, And Rosta wrote:<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;bord= er-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">la gleki, On 25/08/2012 15:23:
> OK. Please translate
>
> "I could eat some specific apple from that basket, namely the yell= ow (all the others are red)"

"mi su'o mu'ei citka le plise je se lanka be ta"

> "I could eat any apple from that basket".

"ro da poi ge plise gi se lanka ta zo'u mi su'o mu'ei  citka da"


1. So "Give me any thre= e apples from the basket!"  would be {ro da poi plise zo'u ko su'= omu'ei dunda ci da}? So in every possible world I'm asking for th= ree {da}?
2. Is it possible to get rid of {zo'u}?

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