Received: from mail-yw0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:55390) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T6NZu-0001gu-QW; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:47 -0700 Received: by yhoo21 with SMTP id o21sf5907691yho.16 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Y4NPgyUEwKOFEsecXrbNop+2HtLg6qrB4GZeVGcjdm4=; b=x07Oqioz4Yv6srSBQkcFrzLVN3Npbmwj80Y901w6QhEG2aYqTdIPwVk4caAAjr+RVE 2gFqbEAjqXSTJXK5s+ciOySmtjy3ZFPwtCEpIYaoHZm4xROWAWzNmAVKAuFxEvZRT3cV 8euDN8F/ALtBsEQHkU/DYqQS7s0Eq5tuKU1O4R4mQHprE9bdKfYHFUStTjod5PWpTsQ7 C55RRhj4OKrAG/w/SkW0pKV9+QVuBGIHiA7HGlRJrI2gAC6Itl3ncE7ITZrz7cp2Rnj/ pme6aoyVrqHfJ2XF3RPZS6fKE22DYpkK4mfytzbzfUI6A8j+0LaQ3phO4xEHlMe4PM4v 0mjg== Received: by 10.52.97.102 with SMTP id dz6mr2463614vdb.2.1346167176281; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.221.0.70 with SMTP id nl6ls423943vcb.5.gmail; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.58.206 with SMTP id t14mr6003909veq.16.1346167175666; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.58.206 with SMTP id t14mr6003908veq.16.1346167175619; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ef10si4049007vdb.3.2012.08.28.08.19.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.212.51; Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fn1so6832380vbb.24 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.33.139 with SMTP id r11mr5243317vdi.11.1346167175259; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.4.193 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 08:19:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1b8bb927-a69e-4fc1-a85d-97c4203b751d@googlegroups.com> <5009A007.2030107@gmail.com> <5009C826.2090108@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:19:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=5D_Re=3A_lujvo_for_=22spelling=22=3F_=28was_Re=3A_=5Bloj?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ban=2Dbeginners=5D_How_do_you_write_=22Eyjafjallaj=F6kull=22=3F_=28a_sent?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ence_from_tatoeba=29=29?= From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.51 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307ca3de4a243304c854f8cd X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf307ca3de4a243304c854f8cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas wro= te: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, vitci'i > wrote: > > jbovlaste's definition for lerpoi doesn't seem to have a place for the > > word formed by the sequence of letters. I have to repeat iesk's questio= n. > > Maybe "lerpoipo'i": ko'a porpi ko'e noi porsi lo lerfu > > zo broda lerpoipo'i by ce'o ry ce'o .obu ce'o dy ce'o .abu > > The pronoun "by" is not the name of the letter B, but it can well be > used to refer to the letter B since whatever its name is in Lojban, if > it has one, it probably begins with B. > > Another maybe more practical option is: > > zo broda lerpoipo'i by ry .obu dy .abu > > where the pronoun "by ry .obu dy .abu" is used to refer to the letter > sequence B, R, O, D, A. It's unlikely that this pronoun will ever be > used to refer to anything else. > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > Personally, my philosophy on a lujvo for spelling would be more based on "ganzu", rather than "porsi", for the simple reason that spelling is usually agential in nature... -gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at= 6:23 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> jbovlaste's definition for lerpoi doesn't seem to have a place= for the
> word formed by the sequence of letters. I have to repeat iesk's qu= estion.

Maybe "lerpoipo'i": ko'a porpi ko'e noi porsi l= o lerfu

zo broda lerpoipo'i by ce'o ry ce'o .obu ce'o dy ce'o .= abu

The pronoun "by" is not the name of the letter B, but it can well= be
used to refer to the letter B since whatever its name is in Lojban, if
it has one, it probably begins with B.

Another maybe more practical option is:

zo broda lerpoipo'i by ry .obu dy .abu

where the pronoun "by ry .obu dy .abu" is used to refer to the le= tter
sequence B, R, O, D, A. It's unlikely that this pronoun will ever be used to refer to anything else.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

<= br>
=A0 Personally, my philosophy on a lujvo for spelling would b= e more based on "ganzu", rather than "porsi", for the s= imple reason that spelling is usually agential in nature...
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -gejyspa

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