Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:48775) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T6P5J-0002RE-VQ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:21 -0700 Received: by vbzb23 with SMTP id b23sf6044811vbz.16 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=IT7WnaAE+dzPn99NntJHS4QEhoO/qmMmlWwGnJaN5Ok=; b=U1dEebqxU6QMDU9VnrrXPLyTJHHqCKAYk+VXp6BJWZlqrIGlSJp1eLYFFcB/oOnfe7 t/ds98Z+zYjdbgRd7U3vkmcSc0bYNPck2ZgzXLwsdOgKsaVv2aCrYp9NHu2qp9pqsFUS EjpvJ7jPW/7kVu29xZ89zNiEXC6HnxemhySWUh9xUvUzg/7d6uxsojYQw38W7JLkcHCv SbsJ3KunnTlN6z2JkmPUT1MyF+k2i4HTWoSR6IvFysYwObUtfpYAm2RIogwJ+EQ0gaPE 2LNKU4knoWH/w2/3iohPQYfLjAdX0RXEELrqiJiDVJUPfcxZhYzozK0Sg6m6rW4wDAtP MZuA== Received: by 10.50.15.163 with SMTP id y3mr4301367igc.0.1346172966726; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:06 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.11.232 with SMTP id t8ls8540708igb.2.canary; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.100.168 with SMTP id ez8mr7329166igb.1.1346172965945; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.100.168 with SMTP id ez8mr7329164igb.1.1346172965852; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dd6si1380123igc.0.2012.08.28.09.56.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.181; Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id wd18so8671020obb.26 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.51.65 with SMTP id i1mr13034116obo.45.1346172965694; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:56:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.76.132.2 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 09:55:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1b8bb927-a69e-4fc1-a85d-97c4203b751d@googlegroups.com> <5009A007.2030107@gmail.com> <5009C826.2090108@gmail.com> From: ".arpis." Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 12:55:45 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Blojban=5D_Re=3A_lujvo_for_=22spelling=22=3F_=28was_Re=3A_=5Bloj?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ban=2Dbeginners=5D_How_do_you_write_=22Eyjafjallaj=F6kull=22=3F_=28a_sent?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ence_from_tatoeba=29=29?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044517856d2bcc04c8565169 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d044517856d2bcc04c8565169 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The (correct) spelling of a word is irrespective of the person doing the spelling (action). There are two concepts: "food" is spelled "f-o-o-d" regardless of who's talking, and I can spell "food" "f-o-o-d". On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas w= rote: > >> On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, vitci'i >> wrote: >> > jbovlaste's definition for lerpoi doesn't seem to have a place for the >> > word formed by the sequence of letters. I have to repeat iesk's >> question. >> >> Maybe "lerpoipo'i": ko'a porpi ko'e noi porsi lo lerfu >> >> zo broda lerpoipo'i by ce'o ry ce'o .obu ce'o dy ce'o .abu >> >> The pronoun "by" is not the name of the letter B, but it can well be >> used to refer to the letter B since whatever its name is in Lojban, if >> it has one, it probably begins with B. >> >> Another maybe more practical option is: >> >> zo broda lerpoipo'i by ry .obu dy .abu >> >> where the pronoun "by ry .obu dy .abu" is used to refer to the letter >> sequence B, R, O, D, A. It's unlikely that this pronoun will ever be >> used to refer to anything else. >> >> mu'o mi'e xorxes >> >> > Personally, my philosophy on a lujvo for spelling would be more based o= n > "ganzu", rather than "porsi", for the simple reason that spelling is > usually agential in nature... > -gejyspa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. > --=20 mu'o mi'e .arpis. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegrou= ps.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban= ?hl=3Den. --f46d044517856d2bcc04c8565169 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The (correct) spelling of a word is irrespective of the person doing the sp= elling (action). There are two concepts: "food" is spelled "= f-o-o-d" regardless of who's talking, and I can spell "food&q= uot; "f-o-o-d".

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Michael Tu= rniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> wrote:


On Fr= i, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com= > wrote:
Maybe "lerpoipo'i": ko'a porpi ko'e noi porsi l= o lerfu

zo broda lerpoipo'i by ce'o ry ce'o .obu ce'o dy ce'o .= abu

The pronoun "by" is not the name of the letter B, but it can well= be
used to refer to the letter B since whatever its name is in Lojban, if
it has one, it probably begins with B.

Another maybe more practical option is:

zo broda lerpoipo'i by ry .obu dy .abu

where the pronoun "by ry .obu dy .abu" is used to refer to the le= tter
sequence B, R, O, D, A. It's unlikely that this pronoun will ever be used to refer to anything else.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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