=A0 Absolutely. =A0But you can use either method of lujvo = formation to get both meanings. =A0It's just whether you want to add a = gau part to a non-agential word to make it agential, or use zi'o (or ju= st leave it blank, zo'e'ing it) to make an agential work into a non= -agential one. =A0Personal preference *shrug* =A0If (for example) "ler= ganzu" means something like "g1 spells word l3 as g3=3Dl1 in lang= uage/by rules g4=3Dl2" you can ask "ma te lerganzu zo barda"= and receive back an answer of "me'o by ce'o abu ce'o ry c= e'o dy ce'o abu" or "me'o by ce'o ibu ce'o gy= go'i fi mi lo ka tolmencre se ra'a mi"

=A0 =A0 --gejsypa

On Tue, Aug = 28, 2012 at 12:55 PM, .arpis. <rpglover64+jbobau@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

The (correct) spelling of a word is irrespec= tive of the person doing the spelling (action). There are two concepts: &qu= ot;food" is spelled "f-o-o-d" regardless of who's talkin= g, and I can spell "food" "f-o-o-d".

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 = at 11:19 AM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com> = wrote:

On Fri, Jul 20, 20= 12 at 6:23 PM, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wr= ote:

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, vitci'i <celestialcognition@gmail.com> wrote:
> jbovlaste's definition for lerpoi doesn't seem to have a place= for the
> word formed by the sequence of letters. I have to repeat iesk's qu= estion.

Maybe "lerpoipo'i": ko'a porpi ko'e noi porsi l= o lerfu

zo broda lerpoipo'i by ce'o ry ce'o .obu ce'o dy ce'o .= abu

The pronoun "by" is not the name of the letter B, but it can well= be
used to refer to the letter B since whatever its name is in Lojban, if
it has one, it probably begins with B.

Another maybe more practical option is:

zo broda lerpoipo'i by ry .obu dy .abu

where the pronoun "by ry .obu dy .abu" is used to refer to the le= tter
sequence B, R, O, D, A. It's unlikely that this pronoun will ever be used to refer to anything else.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

=A0 Person= ally, my philosophy on a lujvo for spelling would be more based on "ga= nzu", rather than "porsi", for the simple reason that spelli= ng is usually agential in nature...

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -gejyspa

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