Received: from mail-wg0-f61.google.com ([74.125.82.61]:58389) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1T6SGD-00049G-2g; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:19:45 -0700 Received: by wgbdr13 with SMTP id dr13sf2073832wgb.16 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:19:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:received-spf:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe; bh=XtH92LsYEVwMmWyU00SOgliz1UEGaoWNPWlwbldNpv0=; b=XilzrYPnpCsFXAJIp1fJ5wQDfEjFiJhTLsQZPj67s1sTdeCF8QZiIfwu+4uRdIM2e9 9o+1DG0Lp5Tuic5w2zGz3ngcqeXwluxnzDE8trof8n2j5gTY213gH9uoC5RtiFyasCBE inA7LgXC4ZCvXIM3wYrraz4Z3Qh355VSUg6IsfjmFkCaTEvsbfauYtMaWR11lnk7Si00 t9MlXnl7UPxV5U4WkgGRMrF1HxKnw/uDHaIoE8yLFpfd7yn0O4AsDB6ILVuDutm8I4vS sbLhcAMrqvZ8cALuRok9+pUbbAgWhu+2arrNGAjU1I6l6swUIuG9ERfWrVyllrsR+iE9 uyFA== Received: by 10.216.202.72 with SMTP id c50mr415373weo.22.1346185169604; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:19:29 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.181.12.12 with SMTP id em12ls1155412wid.2.gmail; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.107.167 with SMTP id hd7mr2618081wib.0.1346185168806; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.107.167 with SMTP id hd7mr2618080wib.0.1346185168788; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fa8si826710wid.1.2012.08.28.13.19.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-d9bade9c.pool.mediaWays.net [217.186.222.156]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1B6DF860F95 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:19:28 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:19:27 +0200 From: v4hn To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] "Any" and {ro} Message-ID: <20120828201927.GI25027@samsa> References: <5038CEC3.4050708@gmail.com> <5039204B.1060401@gmail.com> <325f818f-76ce-4f3c-b0c0-03dc4db2e9d8@googlegroups.com> <503B8ED4.200@gmail.com> <9019D4E1-8993-4AF4-BD70-AC76E5A9620F@yahoo.com> <1346161778.18681.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UlxN1C6awaFNesUv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.7 X-Spam_score_int: -6 X-Spam_bar: / --UlxN1C6awaFNesUv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, just to get some feedback on my current understanding of lojban: On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 09:39:15AM -0700, la gleki wrote: > OK. Please everyone translate the following sentences. > 1. "I'm gonna eat three apples from that basket" [some specific apples,= =20 > namely the red one. the yellow one and the green one but I'm too lazy to= =20 > mention it] =2Ei mi ba citka le ci plise poi se lanka > 2. "I'm gonna eat any three apples from that basket" =2Ei mi ba citka ci lo plise poi se lanka > 3. "Give me any three apples from the basket" =2Ei ko dunda fi mi fe ci lo plise poi se lanka > 4. "Give me three apples from the basket" [not known whether I need some= =20 > specific apples or not] To me this is the same as 3. You can always go on with something like {zi'e poi crino gi'a xunre gi'a pelxu} to further specify the apples. Why should people stop to use {le} if it literally means "the thing you hav= e in mind".. mu'o --UlxN1C6awaFNesUv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlA9J88ACgkQMBKLZs4+wjwybgCePNtWNe6wutJLJwAg2paWZyrw LDsAniIpXgIzkC3+2Njcty4t6SZKUk5j =icBC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --UlxN1C6awaFNesUv--